Otangelo wrote:I don't hate atheists.
I hate atheism because, in my opinion, it leads people to hell.
And all other religions right? Only your religion leads to salvation, so that's only about 33% of the world, maybe less. I did some calcuations with help of chatgpt awhile ago:
92-97 billion non-Jewish and non-Christian individuals are all in hell (currently)
The calcuation of the human race and subtract non-jew/non-xtan people and you get that huge number of humans. 92 billion. Heck round it down, 90 billion people. Just think about that. 90 billion people in hell. (so far).
Similarly, I don't hate people with cancer.
I hate cancer because it kills people.
But God makes cancer and also death!
Gravity is inferred by observing an apple falling to the ground, so the existence of an uncreated non-physical creator is inferred by observing the existence of a finite universe.
To YOU but not to me, or any other skeptic that I know of. What the bleep is a non-physical anything?
The idea that matter can somehow become conscious through evolutionary processes is absurd.
appeal to personal incredulity
The passion with which materialists defend their worldview doesn't add weight to its truth.
Correct, nor does your passion add or take away anything from what arguments you have - I do not care about passion or lack thereof, I only care if the argument is valid and sound. Your arguments have many logical fallacies. All I can do is point them out, try to suggest corrections, and hope you fix them, so far, you have not even tried as far as I can tell.
Non-believers may claim that it is justified to remain agnostic or reject the idea of a supernatural reality beyond the physical world. They rely on their finite minds and sensory perceptions.
What choice do we have but to rely upon the minds and/or sensory perceptions we have?
Well- we might record what we think we observe and have someone check to see if that is what they also observe, and the more people that do that, the more sure we can be that we got it close, if not spot on - that would be the method of science, broadly speaking.
Since we are limited, the truth of the ultimate reality and the invisible, imperceptible supernatural world must be revealed to us.
Why not make us non-limited so that we can understand the truth of ultimate reality? That would negate the burden of revelation.
God did that.
Prove it.
He gave us the book of nature,
What book of nature?
scriptures,
I'll grant that.
and moral values.
Examples?
Therefore, disbelief is not justified.
That assumes that there is something to disbeleve in.
Its also an unwarented conclusion based upon your falty logic.
In YOUR VIEW you think that non-beleve in your version of god is not warrented. Now, I bet you have zero problems with disbelief in Zeus correct?
Or Shiva the destroyer, or any other Gods that are not your version of god.
I could say that disbelief in those gods is unwarented. Heck, I'll go with LOD - disbelief in LOD is unwarneted.
Have I made an argument to support that idea?
Have YOU made an argument to support your idea?
Wisdom is to trust the Lord and His revelation,
Circular reasoning.
which makes theistic belief rational.
To you, perhaps. Not to me.
There was no selection process to separate functional amino acids to form proteins in the prebiotic Earth.
How do you know that?
Do you have proof of that?
Evidence?
Scientific pier reviewed paper that agrees with you?
What ya got to support this bald assertion?
Checkmate, atheists.
I was playing Othello, so you do not win.
Atheists believe
How do you know what we beleve?
they are intelligent based on their brains, which were not intelligently designed.
Okay - and? Whats the argument?
How can the inanimate become animate?
Good question. What would not knowing the answer to such a question mean to you? Would that mean GOD DUN IT. If I or anyone else provide an answer to you, would you accept it, or reject it?
How can consciousness emerge from atoms, protons, and electrons?
Good question. What would not knowing the answer to such a question mean to you? Would that mean GOD DUN IT. If I or anyone else provide an answer to you, would you accept it, or reject it?
These are impossibilities, plain and simple.
How do you know that?
The origin of consciousness only makes sense when it is accepted that the foundation and cause of the universe, at its most basic level, is an intelligent, living, eternal, and conscious spirit, not lifeless, mindless matter.
It only makes sense TO YOU.
However, even if something seems to "make sense" that does not make it true.
Ontology moves from an eternal conscious mind, using mathematics, to create the physical laws governing the universe, physics, chemistry, biology, and as the crown of all creation: us.
I don't know black holes seem mightly impressive to me, I think they are the crown of all creation.

Therefor God made blackholes and everything else was just to be sucked into the black holes. I also can assert things without any argument!
When Occam's razor is applied, and God is negated, absurdities arise, and the realm of "we do not know" becomes their playground.
Oh the horror of not knowing things! Oh noooo!!!! Man you really have a problem with that. Do you know what god's power is like? How many angels are there? How many demons are there? Where is hell located? Where is the Garden of Eden on earth? What is the square root of a wood chuck chucking a writing desk that is like a pen when one hand claps in the woods?
Oh no! You don't know! Oh nooooo!
Get over yourself man. We don't know stuff. Big deal.
The theistic worldview as a whole is solid as a rock and undeniably true.
All of them? Really? All theistic world views? Or just YOUR version?
The entire universe is immersed, sustained, and connected by information: God's command.
What of the 613 commands would that be?
This refers to the use of mathematical principles to define physical laws, the fine-tuning of the universe, the Earth, and molecular action and interaction, sustaining and constraining the forces of subatomic particles, to inform the organization of matter to become alive, to inform us how to become spiritually alive through HIS revelation in the Bible.
Bald assertions as far as the eye can see! LOD does a better job then your god.
Genesis: The creator of all living beings, accounting for how everything was made. From top to bottom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZusx65gxk&ab_channel=DeconvertedMan
Philosophical materialism, cosmic, chemical, and biological evolution: humanity, created by God, attempting to have greater knowledge than the creator. Everything evolved. From bottom to top.
NEVER, in over 150 years since Darwin's book "On the Origin of Species" was published, has any, among hundreds or thousands, if not millions of scientific articles, provided ONE DEMONSTRATION, and replicable verifiable empirical evidence, that any of the proposed evolutionary mechanisms could produce a primary macroevolutionary transition of speciation and population differentiation.
Idea - before you type in nonsense run it though chatgpt and ask it for logical and scientific errors... here is what happened when I ran your paragraph above doing that:
Chatgpt:
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Misunderstanding of Evolutionary Mechanisms: The statement seems to imply that no scientific articles have provided evidence for macroevolutionary transitions. However, numerous studies have presented evidence for various mechanisms contributing to macroevolutionary changes, such as speciation and population differentiation. These mechanisms include natural selection, genetic drift, gene flow, and more.
Demand for a Single Demonstration: The statement asks for "ONE DEMONSTRATION" of macroevolutionary transitions, which is an oversimplification of scientific research. Science relies on cumulative evidence from multiple studies across various fields to build a comprehensive understanding. Evolutionary biology doesn't hinge on a single "demonstration" but rather on a body of evidence from diverse sources.
Ignoring Accumulated Evidence: The phrase "NEVER... provided ONE DEMONSTRATION" dismisses a vast amount of research that has accumulated since Darwin's time. Over the past 150+ years, numerous studies have provided evidence for speciation and macroevolution through various mechanisms, including the observation of transitional fossils, comparative anatomy, molecular genetics, and experimental studies.
Misrepresentation of Scientific Articles: The statement claims that "hundreds or thousands, if not millions" of scientific articles have not provided evidence for macroevolutionary transitions. This assertion is incorrect. The scientific literature contains numerous articles that discuss evidence and observations related to macroevolutionary processes, including speciation and population differentiation.
Lack of Replicable Verifiable Empirical Evidence: The statement asks for "replicable verifiable empirical evidence" without acknowledging the abundance of such evidence that exists in the scientific literature. Fossil records, DNA sequencing, observations of ecological and genetic changes, experimental studies, and more provide empirical evidence for macroevolutionary processes.
Cherry-Picking: The statement seems to selectively ignore the vast body of research that supports macroevolution while emphasizing a perceived absence of evidence. This is a form of cherry-picking data to support a preconceived viewpoint.
In summary, the statement contains several logical and scientific errors by misrepresenting the accumulated body of evidence in evolutionary biology. Evolutionary theory is supported by a wide range of empirical data from multiple disciplines, and it is important to consider the entirety of scientific research when discussing such topics.
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Okay, you said other things that are unsupported nonsense. I don't understand what your issue is with science or why you have not bothered to actualy learn it, you also seem to have yet to learn informal and/or formal logic. Your arguments suck bane and will never ever convince anyone.
Fix your broken stuf man.