Interaction with Aron Ra on messenger ( Facebook):
Me: Hi Aron, hope you are doing well. Would you like to have a chat on the Origin of Life? Can be on any channel of your suggestion. Btw. i saw your debate with Jesse. You said that in your view, religion is evil. How is it evil to love God, and to love our neighbor as ourselves ? If you prefer, i also accept to discuss your phylogeny challenge.
Aron: How is it evil evil to believe in lies and to threaten death and damnation against anyine who wasn't into believing the same lies as you?
Me: Ok. Would you be interested to discuss that publicly ?
Aron: We tried to discuss evolution once, remember? You showed that you were incapable, unable to answer any direct question. All you would do is post long quotes of unrelated nonsense from your own blog like a raving madman, showing that you are not competent.
Me: uh. ok.... So would you like to try again? You said that I am not as awful as you thought I am.
Aron: You couldn't do it in writing, but you want to doit live? Wherw you can better avoid learning anything?
Me: Yes. Lets try again. I think it will be fun. For both of us. Oh Aron Ra, I ponder still,
Since last we spoke on reason's league
Your side-step dance, so deftly done,
Avoiding questions, almost every one.
Intelligence, the key inquire,
To life's origin, a truth so dire,
But answers lack, your arguments weak,
While claims you make, still seem to leak.
Instead of facts, you sling your ire,
With personal attacks, a futile fire,
But where's the the evidence clear,
For godless worldview you hold so dear?
A worldview without God, you say,
Yet lacking evidence, you still portray,
A leap of faith, without foundation,
Based on assertions, not logic and sound inferences.
So bring me facts, compelling, strong,
To back your claims, and prove me wrong,
No more evasion, no more smoke,
Just honest answers, as we spoke.
For truth, Aron, is what we seek,
Not empty words, but knowledge meek,
So let us reason, with open mind,
And seek the truth, together find.
Aron: So now you're going to lie about me too? Fuck off, Cunt.
Me: Me lying about you ? You are constantly accusing us of being liars, when your entire worldview is a lie, and you are a servant of the father of lies, Satan. You are too afraid of being exposed, thats why you don't accept to engage me publicly.
Aron Ra, on Reasons League
I said, "Abiogenesis cannot work,
For selection needs a chooser's hand,
Without a selector, no selection occurs,
It's a dance of facts, hard to withstand."
But you, like Fred Astaire, danced around,
Avoiding truths, making excuses abound,
Trying to dismiss the facts I laid bare,
With lies and denials, a false affair.
But where there's truth, where there are facts,
Excuses crumble, like a house of wax,
Abiogenesis, a lost cause, indeed,
Without a Creator, life can't proceed.
But you, a son of the father of lies,
Reject the truth, and keep spinning ties,
Dancing around, avoiding the light,
Hiding behind chats, a futile fight.
For truth is truth, it cannot be denied,
No matter how hard you try to hide,
I expose you every time, it's clear to see,
The lies you spread, they can't deceive me.
So dance around, play your charade,
But truth will always pierce your facade,
For nothing can overcome the light,
And your lies will crumble, in plain sight.
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Wed 6:40 PM
Aron
Aron Ra
I accused you of lying because you lie. Then you lied again, pretending as if my worldview is a lie rather than yours. You pretended as if I was avoiding your questions, forgetting that our discussion ended because you could not and would not answer any question posed to you, where I addressed everything you said.
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Aron Ra, your response is flawed,
Avoiding facts, ignoring the nod,
To evidence and reason, you turn away,
Preferring accusations in disarray.
I challenged you with a query clear,
To explain how life's complexity did appear,
Through natural mechanisms, non-guided and true,
Selecting building blocks, without a clue.
But you deflect, accuse and bluster,
Creating smoke screens, a futile muster,
Dodging the challenge, avoiding the task,
With empty rhetoric, an empty mask.
Your claims are a bluff, like Dave Farina,
you lack a compelling arena,
To prove your stance, to back your claim,
That an intelligent designer is not just a name.
Provide a compelling explanation, do tell,
That tops design, with knowledge so swell,
How non-guided mechanisms, on their own,
Can create life's wonders, yet remain unknown.
But alas, your case is weak and bare,
Nada, zilch, just hot air to share,
For intelligent design stands tall and strong,
With foresight, goals, and wisdom to prolong.
So Aron Ra, the challenge remains,
Back up your claims with evidence and gains,
Stop the accusations, the smoke and the haze,
And present a case that's not just a maze.
An intelligent designer, with foresight and aim,
Can explain life's complexity, without any blame.
With goals and purpose, and knowledge so grand,
Life's intricacies, carefully planned.
The building blocks of life, so precise,
DNA's code, a blueprint to entice,
Proteins, enzymes, a symphony of design,
Guided by intelligence, so divine.
Natural mechanisms, left to chance,
Could never create life's intricate dance.
Random processes, with no clear goal,
Cannot account for life's every role.
So Aron Ra, your accusations fall short,
For intelligent design is a strong retort.
It offers explanations, based on reason and fact,
A compelling case, that you must not detract.
Don't dismiss with accusations and bluff,
Open your mind, it's time to rebuff,
The notion that chance alone can create,
Life's complexity, intricate and innate.
So I challenge you, Aron Ra,
Provide evidence that can mar,
The case for intelligent design so clear,
Or admit its strength, without any fear.
Aron: The only "challenge" in talking to you is in trying to communicate through your glassy-eyed stare. If you post to me again, I will block you. I just want you to understand that the reason I will block you is because you are neither honest nor sane. You certainly don't deserve any more of my time, even though it would make me money trying to talk to you.
