I have heard scientists say that if the net energy of the universe is zero, then the universe need not have a cause of its beginning to exist because nothing really exists, so that we do not have the absurdity of something’s coming from nothing.
The attempt to draw metaphysical implications from the zero net energy hypothesis is a bad joke. It’s like saying that if your debts and your assets exactly cancel each other out, so that your net worth is zero, then there is no cause of your current financial condition. The suggestion that nothing exists is absurd. Not only do I undeniably exist, but according to the hypothesis, the positive and negative energy exist. So as Christopher Isham, Britain’s premier quantum cosmologist, points out, there still needs to be “ontic seeding” to create the positive and negative energy in the first place.
"Net energy is zero" is what is called a construct. It's like "the average family with 2.4 children". It's not an actual object you can point to, but something you get when you run the calculations for positive and negative elements. Do you know what you have when you have positive and negative elements? Elements. That's not nothing, that's something. Something that 1) doesn't have to exist and 2) logically cannot exist eternally. So we're back to the same question. If non-physical causation is a non-starter for you, either offer an explanation that's physical that doesn't suffer from those problems of offer an explanation as to why non-physical explanations are so repulsive.
for someone who does not have an a priori commitment to the Big Bang (and inflation theory), it is not at all clear that the universe’s total energy would be exactly zero. In fact, it seems extremely unlikely.
In order for science to claim a universe from nothing, first off they need space, and time
So it can’t be nothing, but let’s play along with them, because of HUP the life of a QF (quantum fluctuation) is inversely proportional to the amount of energy it has. So science needs a universe of zero energy in order for a QF to create the universe. They do this by calling gravity negative energy so that the sum of the energy in the universe will balance out at zero.
They seem to for get the black hole, their claim of the gravitational pull of the singularity in a black hole pass the event horizon is infinite. Yes infinite. Therefore one black hole if it was really in the universe and gravity being a negative energy would out weigh the rest of the energy of the whole universe by an infinite amount, and that’s just one black whole.￼￼￼￼￼
These scientists can’t seem to remember there own claims.