Quantum Mechanics destroys materialism
https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t2992-quantum-mechanics-destroys-materialism
Observers are required in order for reality to emerge, for the wave function to collapse into a verifiable state.
The death of materialism - https://youtu.be/wM0IKLv7KrE
-Observers are necessary to collapse the wave function.
-Observers bring about physical existence of the fundamental particles that make up reality.
-Nothing is physically certain until an observer makes a measurement.
-Matter doesn't exist as a wave of energy prior to observation, but as a wave of mathematical potentialities.
"The waviness in a region is the probability of finding the object in a particular place. We must be careful: the waviness is not the probability of the object being in a particular place. There is a crucial difference here! The object was not there before you found it there." - Bruce Rosenblaum and Fred Kuttner, The Quantum Enigma, p. 81
*In other words, there is no physical particle prior to measurement. Nothing was physically there prior to measurement.
"In the experiments about atomic events we have to do with things and facts, the phenomena in daily life. But the atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts." - Werner Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy, p. 160
"The conception of objective reality of the elementary particles has thus evaporated not into the cloud of some obscure new reality concept but into the transparent clarity of a mathematics that represents no longer the behavior of particles but rather our knowledge of this behavior." - Werner Heisenberg, The Representation of Nature in Contemporary Physics, p. 100
Leggett's Inequality -
-Recent experiments led by a group at the University of Vienna, Austria, provide the most compelling evidence yet that there is no objective reality beyond what we observe.
-What they found is that Leggett's inequality is violated as well as Bell's; even if you allow for instantaneous influences, quantum measurements do not fit with the idea of an objective reality.
-"Rather than passively observing it, we in fact create reality." - New Scientist magazine, 23 June 2007, as presented in the video by Astrophysicist Bernard Haisch
-You cannot have a universe that is objective, deterministic, and also independent of observers as we once thought. Physical reality is dependent on there being an observer to collapse the wave function.
"The laws of quantum mechanics itself... cannot be formulated without recourse to the concept of consciousness." - Eugene Wigner, 'The Probability of the Existence of a Self Reproducing Unit', p. 232, In the Logic of Personal Knowledge
"The solution hinges not on quantum randomness, but rather on the dynamical effects within quantum theory of the intention and attention of the observer." - Henry Stapp, Attention, Intention, and Will in Quantum Physics, p. 5
"... Human beings are observers (and perhaps the only observers), this fact clearly has potentially huge implications for the question of whether the human mind is entirely reducible to physics and mathematics." - Stephen Barr, Modern Physics and Ancient Faith, p. 228
Paul Davies: The universe really is indeterministic at its most basic level. So does this mean that the universe is irrational after all? No, it doesn't. There is a difference between the role of chance in quantum mechanics and the unrestricted chaos of a lawless universe. Although there is generally no certainty about the future states of a quantum system, the relative probabilities of the different possible states are still determined. Thus the betting odds can be given that, say, an atom will be in an excited or a nonexcited state, even if the outcome in a particular instance is unknown. This statistical lawfulness implies that, on a macroscopic scale where quantum effects are usually not noticeable, nature seems to conform to deterministic laws.
https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t2992-quantum-mechanics-destroys-materialism
Observers are required in order for reality to emerge, for the wave function to collapse into a verifiable state.
The death of materialism - https://youtu.be/wM0IKLv7KrE
-Observers are necessary to collapse the wave function.
-Observers bring about physical existence of the fundamental particles that make up reality.
-Nothing is physically certain until an observer makes a measurement.
-Matter doesn't exist as a wave of energy prior to observation, but as a wave of mathematical potentialities.
"The waviness in a region is the probability of finding the object in a particular place. We must be careful: the waviness is not the probability of the object being in a particular place. There is a crucial difference here! The object was not there before you found it there." - Bruce Rosenblaum and Fred Kuttner, The Quantum Enigma, p. 81
*In other words, there is no physical particle prior to measurement. Nothing was physically there prior to measurement.
"In the experiments about atomic events we have to do with things and facts, the phenomena in daily life. But the atoms or elementary particles themselves are not real; they form a world of potentialities or possibilities rather than one of things or facts." - Werner Heisenberg, Physics and Philosophy, p. 160
"The conception of objective reality of the elementary particles has thus evaporated not into the cloud of some obscure new reality concept but into the transparent clarity of a mathematics that represents no longer the behavior of particles but rather our knowledge of this behavior." - Werner Heisenberg, The Representation of Nature in Contemporary Physics, p. 100
Leggett's Inequality -
-Recent experiments led by a group at the University of Vienna, Austria, provide the most compelling evidence yet that there is no objective reality beyond what we observe.
-What they found is that Leggett's inequality is violated as well as Bell's; even if you allow for instantaneous influences, quantum measurements do not fit with the idea of an objective reality.
-"Rather than passively observing it, we in fact create reality." - New Scientist magazine, 23 June 2007, as presented in the video by Astrophysicist Bernard Haisch
-You cannot have a universe that is objective, deterministic, and also independent of observers as we once thought. Physical reality is dependent on there being an observer to collapse the wave function.
"The laws of quantum mechanics itself... cannot be formulated without recourse to the concept of consciousness." - Eugene Wigner, 'The Probability of the Existence of a Self Reproducing Unit', p. 232, In the Logic of Personal Knowledge
"The solution hinges not on quantum randomness, but rather on the dynamical effects within quantum theory of the intention and attention of the observer." - Henry Stapp, Attention, Intention, and Will in Quantum Physics, p. 5
"... Human beings are observers (and perhaps the only observers), this fact clearly has potentially huge implications for the question of whether the human mind is entirely reducible to physics and mathematics." - Stephen Barr, Modern Physics and Ancient Faith, p. 228
Paul Davies: The universe really is indeterministic at its most basic level. So does this mean that the universe is irrational after all? No, it doesn't. There is a difference between the role of chance in quantum mechanics and the unrestricted chaos of a lawless universe. Although there is generally no certainty about the future states of a quantum system, the relative probabilities of the different possible states are still determined. Thus the betting odds can be given that, say, an atom will be in an excited or a nonexcited state, even if the outcome in a particular instance is unknown. This statistical lawfulness implies that, on a macroscopic scale where quantum effects are usually not noticeable, nature seems to conform to deterministic laws.
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