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Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1MfGrtk0A

https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t2887-chemical-evolution-of-amino-acids-and-proteins-impossible

The problem of getting nitrogen to make amino acids and DNA on early earth   2:41
The problem of getting all amino acids used in llife by origin of life experiments 4:20
The problem of selecting 20 amino acids prebiotically out of hundreds supposedly existing on early earth. 6:08
The problem of concentrating the amino acids used in life at one assembly site.  7:15
The problem of understanding why life uses 20 amino acids, and not more or less. 9:00
The problem of homochirality 12:23
The problem of amino acid synthesis regulation 13:43
The problem of peptide bonding of amino acids to form proteins 14:12
The problem of linking the right amino acid side sequence together  17:15  
The problem of getting the right forces to stabilize proteins - essential for their correct folding 19:32
The problem of hierarchical structures of proteins 19:50

Tan; Stadler, Rob. The Stairway To Life:
Countless biology textbooks describe the Miller-Urey experiment and others like it as strong evidence that life began spontaneously. This argument seemingly equates the simplicity of a handful of amino acids (formed by a natural process) with the unimaginable complexity of living organisms. This is like finding sand and concluding that microprocessors (computer chips based upon silicon) must be able to assemble spontaneously. Indeed, the chasm between simple organic molecules and living organisms is frequently dismissed in a single sentence. Take, for example, this quote from a popular biology textbook: “The first spark of life ignited when simple chemical reactions began to convert small molecules into larger, more complex molecules with novel 3-D structures and activities”. In his 2014 book, Undeniable, Bill Nye similarly applies “the spark of life” to dismiss complexity: “The origin of life just requires some raw material that could allow the spark of life to emerge”. Walt Disney made a movie about a wooden puppet that turned into a boy through a spark of life. Perhaps such fantasy inspired our current biology textbooks and Bill Nye because these statements are certainly not based on scientific evidence or rational thought. In The Vital Question, a 2015 book that Bill Gates praised as “an amazing inquiry into the origins of life,” biochemist Nick Lane expects his readers to join him in dismissing the great complexity separating simple building blocks and living cells: The formation of organic matter from H2 and CO2 is thermodynamically favoured under alkaline hydrothermal conditions, so long as oxygen is excluded…This means that organic matter should form spontaneously from H2 and CO2 under these conditions. The formation of cells releases energy and increases overall entropy! The average reader of The Vital Question may not have noticed the colossal leap that occurred in the last sentence, where Lane equates spontaneous formation of organic building blocks with the spontaneous formation of cells. This could indeed be possible if cells were “nothing more than a shapeless, mobile, little lump of mucus or slime, consisting of an albuminous combination of carbon,” as thought by Haeckel in the late nineteenth century, but each new year of research exposes previously unimagined layers of cellular complexity, even among the simplest known forms of life. Bestselling author Dan Brown, in his 2017 book Origin, includes a respected scholarly character Robert Langdon who concludes, “Life arose spontaneously from the laws of physics”. Addy Pross, a professor of chemistry at Ben Gurion University, concludes the following in his 2012 book, What is Life?: “Life then is just the chemical consequences that derive from the power of exponential growth operating on certain replicating systems”. Jeremy England, a professor of physics at MIT who also happens to appear in Dan Brown’s Origin, similarly sweeps all the complexity of life under the rug with one sentence: “You start with a random clump of atoms, and if you shine light on it for long enough, it should not be so surprising that you get a plant” . Carl Sagan offered similar words, which are strikingly discordant with all observable evidence: “The origin of life must be a highly probable affair; as soon as conditions permit, up it pops!” . Daily news articles on astronomy and astrobiology barrage us with suggestions that life probably exists on other planets. These articles lead us to believe that the simple discovery of water on a planet virtually guarantees the spontaneous formation of life. A reality check is long overdue. The fantastic complexity of all known life-forms stands in stark contrast to what our schools are teaching, what some scientists believe, and what popular media suggests.

In order to have a functional protein, you need to have amino acids.

In order to have the amino acids used in life, you have to select the right ones amongst over 500 that occur naturally on earth.

To get functional ones, you need to sort them out between left-handed and right-handed ones ( the homochirality problem). Only left-handed amino acids are used in cells.

There is no selection process known besides the one used in cells by sophisticated enzymes, which produce only left-handed amino acids.

Amino acids used for life have amino groups and carboxyl groups. To form a chain, it is necessary to have the reaction of bifunctional monomers, that is, molecules with two functional groups so they combine with two others. If a unifunctional monomer (with only one functional group) reacts with the end of the chain, the chain can grow no further at this end. If only a small fraction of unifunctional molecules were present, long polymers could not form. But all ‘prebiotic simulation’ experiments produce at least three times more unifunctional molecules than bifunctional molecules.

The useful amino acids would have to be joined and brought together at the same assembly site in enough quantity.

There are four different ways to bond them together by the side chains. if bonded to the wrong side chain, no deal.

The formation of amide bonds without the assistance of enzymes poses a major challenge for theories of the origin of life.

Instructional/specified complex information is required to get the right amino acid sequence which is essential to get the functionality in a vast sequence space ( amongst trillions os possible sequences, rare are the ones that provide function )

Before amino acids would join into a sequence providing functional folding, it would disintegrate if hit by UV radiation.

But even IF that would not be the case, most proteins become only functional, if they are joined into holo-enzymes, where various amino acid chains come together like lock and key.

If that would occur, the tertiary or quaternary structure in most cases would bear no function without the insertion of a co-factor inside the pocket, like retinal in the opsin pocket, forming rhodopsin.

But even IF there would emerge a functional protein on the early earth, by itself, it would be like a piston outside the engine block of an automobile. Many proteins bear only function once they are integrated in an assembly line, producing sophisticated molecular products used in life.

But even IF we had an assembly line of enzymes producing a functional product, what good would there be for that product, if the cell would not know where that product is required in the Cell?

For example, chlorophyll requires the complex biosynthesis process of 17 enzymes, lined up in the right order, each producing the substrate used by the next enzyme.  But chlorophyll has no function unless inserted in the light-harvesting antenna complex used in photosynthesis to capture light and funnel it to the reaction center.  

But even if that complex, chlorophyll and the LHC would be fully set up, they have no function without all over 30 protein complexes forming photosynthesis, used to make hydrocarbons, essential for all advanced life forms.  

Now, let's suppose all this would assemble by a freaky random accident on early earth, there would still be no mechanisms of transition from a prebiotic assembly, to Cell factory synthesis.

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Origin of life assumptions started with the idea that the environment where life emerged was a complex solution of abiogenic organic molecules either in the primitive ocean of some warm little pond,  including amino acids and sugars—in other words, all the monomers required for the synthesis of biopolymers.

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In a letter to his friend J.D. Hooker, Darwin wrote in 1871:

But if (& oh what a big if) we could conceive in some warm little pond with all sorts of ammonia & phosphoric salts,—light, heat, electricity &c present, that a protein compound was chemically formed, ready to undergo still more complex changes

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The best-known theory is the  spontaneous generation, in other words, abiogenesis, by a “Prebiotic soup”, a theory hypothesized by Oparin in 1924 (Oparin, 1957).


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In this theory, organic compounds were created in a reductive atmosphere from the action of sunlight and lightning. 

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It was claimed that the atmosphere was primarily anoxic, consistent  of ammonia, methane, carbon dioxide and water vapor.

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The compounds were then dissolved in the primitive ocean, concentrated, and underwent polymerization until they formed “coacervate” droplets. The hypothesis was an enormous success, first of all, among the adherents of neo-Darwinism.

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The droplets supposedly grew by fusion with other droplets, were split into daughter droplets by the action of tidal waves, and developed the ability to catalyze their own replication, which eventually led to the emergence of life

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According to the scientific narrative, it is hypothesized that Amino acids  emerged on Early earh, between 3.5 and 4 billion years ago, through chemical evolution by chemical synthesis, or better, chemical lucky accidents.  

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Scientists now recognize twenty-two amino acids as the building blocks of proteins: the twenty common ones and two more, selenocysteine and pyrrolysine.

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Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14

The problem of getting nitrogen to make amino acids and DNA on early earth

 

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As implied by the word (amine), the essential key atom in amino acid composition is nitrogen, which is included in all enzymes and genes. The ultimate source of nitrogen for the biosynthesis of amino acids is abundant atmospheric nitrogen (N2), a remarkably inert molecule. 

Thus, a fundamental problem for biological systems is to obtain nitrogen in a more usable form. This problem is solved by certain microorganisms capable of reducing the inert N = N triple-bond molecule of nitrogen gas to two molecules of ammonia in one of the most amazing reactions in biochemistry. 

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This bond is extremely difficult to break because the three chemical bonds need to be separated and bonded to different compounds. Nitrogenase, a veritable molecular sledgehammer, belongs to the only family of enzymes capable of breaking this bond, carrying out nitrogen fixation. But on early earth, biosynthesis of fixed nitrogen was not available.

For the origin of life, an abiotic source of biochemically accessible nitrogen, especially reduced nitrogen, is necessary.  There are proposals as for example UV-driven chemistry which is constructive for synthesizing and activating nucleotides and amino acids, but is destructive for more complex organic systems, such as, for example, DNA strands.

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14
The problem of getting all amino acids used in llife by origin of life experiments

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In 1953, Stanley Miller, a PhD student at the Uni of Chicago, and his supervisor, the  Nobel Prize winner Harold Urey,  did one of the most famous experiments in our story. They took  chemicals that he considered might be present in the atmosphere of the early Earth 

They ran water, methane, ammonia, and hydrogen in a sealed flask with a pair of electrodes to produce a spark, and from those simple building blocks discovered that more complex compounds, such as amino acids, were spontaneously produced. 

Various biological chemicals were found – glycine ( the simplest amino acid ) plus one of two other chemicals of interest.

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After Millers death in 2007, the so called " volcano in the bottle " experiment was performed, and in total, 22 amino acids were identified. 

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And the Secular Humanist Society heralded  that ALL 20 of the amino acids found in proteins – plus a few others, were produced. 

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The reanalysis found indeed twenty two amino acids and five amines in the vials. But eight of the proteinogenic amino acids, that is the ones used in living systems, were never produced - in none of the experiments.

Cysteine, 
Histidine, 
Lysine, 
Asparagine, 
Glutamine, 
Arginine, 
Tryptophan, 
tyrosine 


have not been produced in any miller urey experiment. Nor do they occur naturally on earth   





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As the building blocks of proteins, amino acids are linked to almost every life process, and as such, essential for life. Amino acids have several functions. Their primary function is to act as the monomer unit in protein synthesis.

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14
The problem of selecting 20 amino acids prebiotically out of hundreds supposedly existing on early earth. 

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In order to have the amino acids used in life, the twenty right ones amongst over 500 that occur naturally on earth would have had to be selected. 

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If we suppose that the twenty used in life were ready available, how could that selection process have occured without guidance ? The article above askes : Why did life select just 20 amino acids when 500 occurred naturally on the Hadean Earth ? 

That is of course an invalid nonsensical question, since the selection of the right twenty amino acids is a prerequisite for life to start.  But also the claim that the 20 used in life were selected amongst 500 naturally occuring amino acids is misleading. 

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As mentioned previously, eight of the twenty amino acids used in life have never been produced in any laboratory experiment, and aren't either encountered on earth naturally, and neither on meteorites. 

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14
The problem of concentrating the amino acids used in life at one assembly site.

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Polymer formation in aqueous environments would most likely have been necessary on early Earth because water would have been the reservoir of amino acid precursors needed for protein synthesis. 

The desired reagents would be extremely dilute in the ocean. And there was no mechanism in existence to concentrate amino acids to one place to start polymerization reactions. 

But then, even if that hurdle would be overcome, the next problem arises: Careful experiments done in an aqueous solution with very high concentrations of amino acids demonstrate the impossibility of significant polymerization, that is the production of proteins in this environment.

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But even worse than that Amino acids tend to fall apart in water, not join. Even if there were billions of simultaneous trials as the billions of building block molecules interacted in the oceans, or on the thousands of kilometers of shorelines that could provide catalytic surfaces or templates, 


even if, as is claimed, there was no oxygen in the prebiotic earth, then there would be no protection from UV light, which would destroy and disintegrate prebiotic organic compounds.

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A common argument is that amino acids could have been generated in hydrothermal vents, deep in the ocean, far from sunlight. hydrothermal vents could have been the primordial hatcheries of life.

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Stanley Miller gave a clear answer: Submarine vents don't make organic compounds, they decompose them. 

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14

The problem of understanding why life uses 20 amino acids, and not more or less.


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Another relevant question is: Why are these twenty, in some cases, twenty two amino acids used in life, and not another set ? 

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Why 20 and not 10 or 30? And why those particular 20? Forming soluble, stable protein structures with close‐packed cores are essential to stabilize proteins and to form a rigid structure with well-defined binding sites. and that requires the variety of amino acids used in cells. 

A selection of different hydrophobic amino acids permit more options to build a closed protein core and a pocket fit to permit the performance of a variety of enzymatic reactions. 

On the other hand, proteins required on the surface for example of cell membranes require straight chains and polar like arginine and glutamic acid.

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Scientists have found that the set that is used by biology has a number of surprisingly non-random properties that stand out very clearly.

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The paper: Frozen, but no accident – why the 20 standard amino acids were selected, concluded remarkably: We find that there are excellent REASONS for the selection of every amino acid. Rather than being a frozen accident, the set of amino acids
SELECTED appears to be near ideal.


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Another paper of Nature magazine  Extraordinarily Adaptive Properties of the Genetically Encoded Amino Acids,  reported in 2015: We drew one hundred million random sets of 20 amino acids from our library of 1913 structures and compared their coverage of three chemical properties: 


size, charge, and hydrophobicity, to the standard amino acid alphabet.  We measured how often the random sets demonstrated better coverage of chemistry space in one or more, two or more, or all three properties.


In doing so, we found that better sets were extremely rare. In fact, when examining all three properties simultaneously, we detected only six sets with better coverage out of the 100 million possibilities tested.

That’s quite striking: out of 100 million different sets of twenty amino acids that they measured, only six are better able to explore “chemistry space” than the twenty amino acids that life uses.


That suggests that life’s set of amino acids is finely tuned to one part in 16 million. The problem here is that molecules and an arrangement of correctly selected variety of amino acids would bear no function until life began.

Only a conscient intelligent agent with foresight and reasoning could select for specific distant purposeful goals. Random, unguided events produce only chaotic structures. Science is absolutely clueless about how the optimal set  could have emerged prebiotically and without a guiding hand.

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14
The problem of homochirality

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Most molecules of life are homochiral, that is, they possess the same handedness or chirality. Homochirality of biological molecules is a signature of life. The  chirality or sense of handedness of the amino acid molecules is an important problem.

Figure above shows two versions, one is left handed, the other right handed. Each contains exactly the same number of elements with the same types of chemical bonds, and yet they are the mirror image of each other. A molecule that is not superimposable on its mirror image is called chiral. 


The handedness of biological molecules such as amino acids or nucleotides plays a role in their functionality. In proteins, only left handed amino acids can be incorporated. 


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Cells, for instance, use complex molecular protein machines to synthesize amino acids only in left handed form. 


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In nature, however, amino acids exist in chiral form. That means, both, left and right handed. There was no mechanism to sort them out on early earth, and group only left handed amino acids that then would be used to produce proteins. 

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The problem of amino acid synthesis regulation

 


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Biosynthetic pathways in living cells are often highly regulated such that building blocks are synthesized only when supplies are low.


Feedback mechanisms ensure that all 20 amino acids are maintained in sufficient amounts for protein synthesis and other processes. Obviously, such regulation did not exist prior the advent of modern cells.

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14
The problem of peptide bonding of amino acids to form proteins

 

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The formation of amide bonds without the assistance of enzymes poses a major challenge.



Given an ocean full of small molecules of the types  to be produced on pre-biological earth with the types of processes postulated by the origin of life enthusiasts, the next question is about polymerization. There are many different problems confronted by any proposal. 

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Polypeptides are polymers of amino acids. In other words, many amino acids are chained and linked together via dehydration reactions that form peptide bonds between them. 

Polymerization is a reaction in which water is a product. Thus it will only be favoured in the absence of water. The presence of precursors in an ocean of water favours depolymerization of any molecules that might be formed. 


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A peer reviewed paper published in 2014 tried to answer the question of prebiotic polymerization on early earth. 

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To which Evolution News gave ten reasons why the proposals are not sound. 

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Another problem is the fact that high activation energies are required for amide bond formation, beside the fact that direct peptide bond formation is slow unless high temperature or activating agents are used.

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14

The problem of linking the correct amino acid side-chains together

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There are four different ways to bond amino acids together by the side chains. Ff bonded to the wrong side chain, no deal.

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Proteins are linear polymers formed by linking the α-carboxyl group of one amino acid to the α-amino group of another amino acid. To form a chain, it is necessary that only bifunctional monomers react together, that is, molecules with two functional groups so they combine with two others.

If a unifunctional monomer (with only one functional group) reacts with the end of the chain, the chain can grow no further at this end. If only a small fraction of unifunctional molecules were present, long polymers could not form.

But all ‘prebiotic simulation’ experiments produce at least three times more unifunctional molecules than bifunctional molecules.

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Polymers can adopt various chain structures. Linear, branched, cross-linked, or networked. Proteins are linear homopolymers, while peptide polymers branched. There is no restriction of amino acids bond and form any of the different polimer structures. 

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But only homopolymerisation permits the formation of functional primary structures used in proteins. Obviously, there was no natural selection of the right formation on the prebiotic earth. 

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14
The problem of linking the right amino acid side-chanis together



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In the same sense as the sequence of alphabetic letters are required to write words, the right sequence of amino acids are required to make functional proteins. 

This is truly fascinating: In the same sense as the instructional complex blueprint specifies how to make each gearwheel of a watch, and ultimately, the watch itself, the genetic code instructs the right amino acid sequence to make functional proteins. 

If we consider that there were no molecular cell machines to make proteins, no evolution, no mutations nor natural selection prior to functional cells and dna replication, how could the right sequence of a  minimal set of at least 500 proteins required for life have been specified, if not by an intelligent agency ? 

We only know of intelligence producing instructional information to make machines and factories for specific goals and purposes. 
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Ribonuclease proteins are found in all domains of life, and it is claimed that they were present in LUCA, the last universal common ancestor of life, and as such, life-essential.  They are the simplest RNA proteins, and use 124 amino acids, 19 of the 20 different ones essential for life. 

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The table demonstrates the catastrophically low probability of getting functional, meaningful amino acid sequences and as consequence, functional proteins, by random, unguided self-assembly spontaneously by orderly aggregation and sequentially correct manner without external direction

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Amino acids may be the building blocks of proteins, but there is a world of difference between building blocks and an assembled structure. 

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Just as the discovery of a pile of bricks is no guarantee that a house lies around the corner, so a collection of amino acids is a long, long way from the sort of large, specialized molecules such as proteins that life requires.


Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!  Black_14

The problem of getting the right forces that stabilize proteins - essential for their correct folding


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Proteins, in order to become functional, must fold into very specific 3D shapes, which happens right when they come out of the Ribosome, where they are synthesized. Specific protein shape and conformation depends on the interactions between its amino acid side chains. 

For a protein to function it must fold into a resting state which is a complex three-dimensional structure.  


If a protein fails to fold into its functional structure then it is not only without function but it can become toxic to the cell. As proteins fold, they test a variety of conformations before reaching their final form, which is unique and compact. 

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Folded proteins are stabilized by thousands of noncovalent bonds between amino acids. A relatively small protein of only 100 amino acids can take some 10^100 different configurations.


If it tried these shapes at the rate of 100 billion a second, it would take longer than the age of the universe to find the correct one. Just how these molecules do the job in nanoseconds, nobody knows.


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The problem of hierarchical structures of proteins






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Even if somehow a polypeptide chain in a functional sequence would emerge and fold into a form that later can be useful in the cell, that does not explain how to get to proteins which use not rarely several chains. 


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Most proteins become only functional, if they are joined into holo-enzymes, where various amino acid chains come together like lock and key. 

Some proteins complexes use over 50 chains or subunits to form a highly complex molecular protein machine. And each subunit must fit precisely to interact correctly with other subunits or protein chains. 




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Ribosomes for example which are veritable  macromolecular factories, are life essential, and found in all living cells. They are the factory which produce  biological protein synthesis by translating the genetic Code, and had to be fully developed when self-replication and life started.

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Each ribosome contains around 80 proteins which work together like a various machine parts in a joint venture. It exerts far tighter quality control than anyone ever suspected over its precious protein products. and discarts error-laden proteins 10,000 times faster than it would normally release error-free proteins.

But even IF there would emerge a functional ribosome factory on the early earth, by itself, it would be like a piston outside the engine block of an automobile. Many proteins bear only function once they are integrated in an assembly line, producing sophisticated molecular products used in life.

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To make proteins, and direct and insert them to the right place where they are needed, requires systematic cooperation. At least 25 unimaginably complex biosyntheses and production-line like manufacturing steps are required. 

Each step  requires extremely complex molecular machines composed of numerous subunits and co-factors,, which makes its origin an irreducible  catch22 problem

In order for evolution to work, this awe inspiring robot-like working machinery and assembly line must be in place, fully operational. So the origin of this machinery cannot be explained through evolution.


All it is left as alternative explanation to intelligent design, are random chemical reactions. Does that make sense ?
 
Now, let's suppose all this would assemble by a freaky random accident on early earth, there would be no mechanism of transition from a prebiotic assembly, to Cell factory synthesis.

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Eugene V. Koonin, The Logic of Chance: page 219
The emergence of cells is the epitome of the problems encountered by all explanations of the evolution of complex biological structures.  A succession of exceedingly unlikely steps is essential for the origin of life, from the synthesis and accumulation of nucleotides to the origin of translation; through the multiplication of probabilities, these make the final outcome seem almost like a miracle. Among modern biological entities, we do not see any intermediates between macromolecules and cells, and to imagine how such intermediates might operate is a huge challenge.

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Lynn Margulis:
To go from a bacterium to people is less of a step than to go from a mixture of amino acids to a bacterium.


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Now consider that we have discussed only the  prebiotic origin of amino acids and proteins. 

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There is still the question of how phospholipids emerged to make cell membranes, RNA and DNA to make genes, and carbohydrates to make energy.

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And to go from the basic building blocks of life, to a fully self replicating cell, is still a looong way to go.

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A chemical clue to how life started on Earth
AUGUST 1, 2019

Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1MfGrtk0A

Claim:
"In the prebiotic Earth, there would have been a much larger set of amino acids," says Leman, who also is scientific collaborator at the Center for Chemical Evolution. "Is there something special about these 20 amino acids, or did these just get frozen at a moment in time by evolution?"

The new study suggests that life's dependence on these 20 amino acids is no accident. The researchers show that the kinds of amino acids used in proteins are more likely to link up together because they react together more efficiently and have few inefficient side reactions.
https://www.universetoday.com/143056/all-life-on-earth-is-made-up-of-the-same-20-amino-acids-scientist-now-think-they-know-why/

Response:
This is a classic example to how methodological naturalism drives to the attempt to provide explanations, which reveal to be nothing more than pseudo-scientific nonsensical explanations.
First of all: The authors neglect and obfuscate the fact that twelve of the twenty life essential amino acids, which are synthesized in hypercomplex metabolic pathways in the Cell, which are central to all life, namely: Cysteine Histidine Lysine Asparagine Pyrrolysine Proline Glutamine Arginine Threonine Selenocysteine Tryptophan Tyrosine have never been synthesized in the lab.

Secondly, the article continues:
Scientists believe that there were over 500 naturally-occurring acids present on Earth during the Hadean Eon. As Loren Williams, a professor of biochemistry at Georgia Tech, explained:

“Our idea is that life started with the many building blocks that were there and selected a subset of them, but we don’t know how much was selected on the basis of pure chemistry or how much biological processes did the selecting.

Response
There is no reasonable natural unguided mechanism selecting twenty amino acids out of a pool of 500 supposedly existing. Why would it select anyway? See, the word " selecting" is misused so much today, and it is ignored that
selecting is something that conscious minds do with a specific purpose. Mindless processes do not select anything in the literal meaning of the word.  

Even IF they were likely to link up together because they react together more efficiently and have few inefficient side reactions, that says nothing about the fact that functional sequences in sequence space are EXTREMELY rare.

Functionally Acceptable Substitutions in Two a-Helical Regions of X Repressor
"The estimated number of sequences capable of adopting the h repressor fold is still 10^63 an exceedingly small fraction, about one in of the total number of possible 92-residue sequences."
http://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/prot.340070403

Truth said: The information barrier is a problem that CANNOT be solved, and puts all abiogenesis explanations into the realm of SCIENCE FICTION. The ONLY reasonable, logical, and sound inference is that an immensly intelligent, powerful, eternal creator, created a universe, suited to host life, and created life in accordance to his eternal purposes. The fact that we do not know how the interface mind/matter works, says nothing about the possibility/impossibility.

Adapted from a quote of W.Dembski:
Eliminative inductions argue for the truth of a proposition by arguing that competitors to that proposition are false. Provided the proposition, together with its competitors, form a mutually exclusive and exhaustive class, eliminating all the competitors entails that the proposition is true. Since either there is a God, or not, either one or the other is true. As Sherlock Holmes famous dictum says: when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however not fully comprehensible, but logically possible, must be the truth. Eliminative inductions, in fact, become deductions.



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There is no reasonable natural unguided mechanism selecting 20 amino acids used in life out of a pool of 500 different amino acids supposedly existing on a prebiotic world. 


The word " selecting" is misused so much today, and it is ignored that selecting is something that conscious minds do with a specific purpose. Mindless processes do not select anything in the literal meaning of the word. 


Evolutionary selection is also not a permitted explanation in pre-DNA replication scenarios. 


Even IF amino acids were likely to link up together because they react together more efficiently and have few inefficient side reactions, that says nothing about the fact that functional sequences in sequence space are EXTREMELY rare.


Functionally Acceptable Substitutions in Two a-Helical Regions of X Repressor
"The estimated number of sequences capable of biological function is one in 10^63"
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/prot.340070403


The information barrier is a problem that CANNOT be solved. 
The origin of life problem cannot be solved ( Steve Benner ) and puts all abiogenesis explanations into the realm of SCIENCE FICTION. The ONLY reasonable, logical, and sound inference is that an immensly intelligent, powerful, eternal creator, created a universe, suited to host life, and created life in accordance to his eternal purposes.

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Evolution of Amino Acid Frequencies in Proteins Over Deep Time: Inferred Order of Introduction of Amino Acids into the Genetic Code

Inferred Order of Entry of Amino Acids into the Genetic Code
New amino acids would have been introduced gradually into existing primitive proteins. Thus, at the time the genetic code became fully established, those amino acids which had been added relatively early would have been overrepresented and those which had been added relatively late would have been underrepresented, relative to the composition of modern proteins. Starting from such early biased amino acid composition, primitive proteins would have proceeded to evolve toward their modern-day compositions. In such a scenario, the amino acids that were introduced into the genetic code relatively early should have decreased in frequency over the course of evolution, whereas those amino acids added relatively late should have increased in frequency.

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/19/10/1645/1258758?fbclid=IwAR2r7uaiWQ5qOc0BWTOAsoiMik8NSlcDH2YPXvm6PdXD3nzcDEj_8LGrxf8

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How could ammonia (NH3), the precursor for amino acid synthesis, have accumulated on prebiotic earth, if the lifetime of ammonia would be short because of its photochemical dissociation?
How could prebiotic events have delivered organosulfur compounds required in a few amino acids used in life, if in nature sulfur exists only in its most oxidized form (sulfate or SO4), and only some unique groups of procaryotes mediate the reduction of SO4 to its most reduced state (sulfide or H2S)?
How did unguided stochastic coincidence select the right amongst over 500 that occur naturally on earth?
How was the concomitant synthesis of undesired or irrelevant by-products avoided?
How were bifunctional monomers, that is, molecules with two functional groups so they combine with two others selected, and unifunctional monomers (with only one functional group) sorted out?
How did prebiotic events produce the twenty amino acids used in life? Eight proteinogenic amino acids were never abiotically synthesized under prebiotic conditions.
How did a prebiotic synthesis of biological amino acids avoid the concomitant synthesis of undesired or irrelevant by-products?
How could achiral precursors of amino acids have produced and concentrated only left-handed amino acids? ( The homochirality problem )
How did the transition from prebiotic enantiomer selection to the enzymatic reaction of transamination occur that had to be extant when cellular self-replication and life began?
How would natural causes have selected twenty, and not more or less amino acids to make proteins?
How did natural events have foreknowledge that the selected amino acids are best suited to enable the formation of soluble structures with close-packed cores, allowing the presence of ordered binding pockets inside proteins?
How did nature "kHow could ammonia (NH3), the precursor for amino acid synthesis, have accumulated on prebiotic earth, if the lifetime of ammonia would be short because of its photochemical dissociation?
How could prebiotic events have delivered organosulfur compounds required in a few amino acids used in life, if in nature sulfur exists only in its most oxidized form (sulfate or SO4), and only some unique groups of procaryotes mediate the reduction of SO4 to its most reduced state (sulfide or H2S)?
How did unguided stochastic coincidence select the right amongst over 500 that occur naturally on earth?
How was the concomitant synthesis of undesired or irrelevant by-products avoided?
How were bifunctional monomers, that is, molecules with two functional groups so they combine with two others selected, and unifunctional monomers (with only one functional group) sorted out?
How did prebiotic events produce the twenty amino acids used in life? Eight proteinogenic amino acids were never abiotically synthesized under prebiotic conditions.
How did a prebiotic synthesis of biological amino acids avoid the concomitant synthesis of undesired or irrelevant by-products?
How could achiral precursors of amino acids have produced and concentrated only left-handed amino acids? ( The homochirality problem )
How did the transition from prebiotic enantiomer selection to the enzymatic reaction of transamination occur that had to be extant when cellular self-replication and life began?
How would natural causes have selected twenty, and not more or less amino acids to make proteins?
How did natural events have foreknowledge that the selected amino acids are best suited to enable the formation of soluble structures with close-packed cores, allowing the presence of ordered binding pockets inside proteins?
How did nature "know" that the set of amino acids selected appears to be near ideal and optimal?
How did Amino acid synthesis regulation emerge? Biosynthetic pathways are often highly regulated such that building blocks are synthesized only when supplies are low.
How did the transition from prebiotic synthesis to cell synthesis of amino acids occur? A minimum of 112 enzymes is required to synthesize the 20 (+2) amino acids used in proteins.now" that the set of amino acids selected appears to be near ideal and optimal?
How did Amino acid synthesis regulation emerge? Biosynthetic pathways are often highly regulated such that building blocks are synthesized only when supplies are low.
How did the transition from prebiotic synthesis to cell synthesis of amino acids occur? A minimum of 112 enzymes is required to synthesize the 20 (+2) amino acids used in proteins.

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