A response to the video:
Were the Egyptian pyramids built before the Flood
Hoffman’s proposed harmonization would still put much Egyptian prehistory before the Flood. The LXX has a longer chronology, which is more accepting of secular Egyptian history, but it does not fix all the problems.
Demetrius the Chronographer (in a quote preserved by Eusebius) places the LXX chronology in the second century BC. Therefore, all three texts have attestation much earlier than the first preserved manuscript.
We refuted the argument that an early 2nd century Jewish leader named Rabbi Akiba originated the MT chronology in order to mess with a chiliastic timing of the Messiah’s arrival.3 Even though several important LXX advocates claim the changes were made for eschatological reasons, Hoffman has a completely different reason why Jews might have created the Masoretic text.
Hoffman claims the Jews changed the genealogy so Melchizedek could be Shem (a son of Noah and an ancestor of the Jewish people). Many Christian theologians of the past had no problem associating Shem and Melchizedek.
Hoffman thinks the MT was created around 60 AD, in the wake of the writing of the biblical book of Hebrews. But this would require someone to intercept the book of Hebrews very early in its existence, before it became widely known, decide it was a massively important work, and then convince the Jewish establishment that they needed to change the Torah to fix the problem. There is a lack of evidence for this. Given that Christians were able to make theological arguments for Christ from both texts, it follows that neither one was anti-Christian.
As an aside, if people were routinely having children in their 100s just a few generations before Abraham, why was Sarah past her childbearing years by the time she was 60? This is yet another factor that suggests the LXX dates have been tampered with.
Over and over again, the Christians with the best grasp of Hebrew and the most access to the different manuscripts came to the conclusion that it was the Masoretic that was the most reliable. As we said above, it formed the basis of Jerome’s Vulgate, which was the most influential Bible in the Western church for 1,000 years. The MT also formed the basis for all the Reformation and post-Reformation translations of the Old Testament from Hebrew into various world languages.
And like most informed Christians of generations past, we have come to the conclusion that the Masoretic is most probably original when it comes to the Genesis 5 and 11 genealogies.
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This is a video explaining whether or not the Egyptian pyramids were built before the flood of Noah's day. It also deals with issues with the accuracy of the Hebrew Masoretic text verses the Greek Septuagint, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Tower of Babel, the age of the Earth, an extra Cainan in Jesus' genealogy, and the identity of Melchizedek - not in that particular order.
The Jews distorted their own Bible in their attempt to disprove Christianity. But it really just made their own religion look stupid. So now it appears that the pyramids were built before the flood, that there wasn't enough time for the Tower of Babel event to have taken place, and that Shem outlived all his sons and grandsons. But thankfully God has preserved His Words in the Greek Septuagint, which was considered the Christian Bible in the days of the early church. And it preserves the original Hebrew...except for when it doesn't (the Greek isn't always perfect either).
Click here to view on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/219396064
Click here to view Kent Hovind's response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te1iQ...
Click here to read CMI’s response: https://creation.com/pyramids-before-...
Click here to watch my previous video "How Long Were The Israelites in Egypt?"
Here’s a clip from a BBC television mini-series called “Egypt” (episode 6) where they show an explorer from the early 1800’s, named Champollion, writing in his private diary that he found evidence that Egyptian history pre-dates Noah’s flood:
Here's one video of an atheist, Shane Craig, using the age of the pyramids as proof that the flood of Noah couldn't have happened:
Here's a video of an atheist, Aron Ra, who says that the pyramids pre-date the flood:
Here's a video of an atheist, Matt Dillahunty, saying that ancient civilizations pre-date the flood:
Here's an atheist website claiming that the pyramids were built before the flood, and therefore the Bible must be wrong:
Here's an atheist website which claims that there wasn't enough time after the flood for the world to re-populate enough in order to build the Tower of Babel (scroll about halfway down the page to the heading that says "Re-population")
Click here to view the video of Rabbi Asher Meza claiming that Shem is Melchizedek:
For more information about the identity of Melchizedek and Shem, check out Tiffany Denham's article:
I also suggest reading an article by Answers in Genesis on the subject of the pyramids (I found this article to be very helpful in the making of this video):
Here's another excellent article from Answers In Genesis, dealing with the extra years in the genealogy: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-ti...
The video during the end credits is of Frank Turek. Click here to watch his full presentation about how text preservation really works:
***MUST WATCH DOCUMENTARY***
Please check out the excellent documentary "Patterns of Evidence: Exodus"
And their 2nd film "Patterns of Evidence: "The Moses Controversy"
And their 3rd film "Patterns of Evidence: "The Red Sea Miracle"
William Lane Craig - Septuagint Vs. Masoretic Genealogies
The Works of Josephus: Complete and Unabridged, New Updated Edition
What I fail to understand here is the whole Melchizedek Shem argument, Even if Shem were Melchizedek (and that can't be proven) how would it in anyway take away from Christ?
God used people in the OT to draw pictures of himself such as in the case of Joseph being betrayed by his brothers, sold for silver, a queen lies about him and tears off his garment, Joseph in prison with two men and one rises to be a cup-bearer while the other condemned, Joseph rises from his prison to become second in command in all of Egypt.
Joseph's life is a snapshot of the Messiah in astounding detail.-and events that would transpire in Christ's life hundreds of years in advance.
If Shem was the Melchizedek of the OT he is a type and God used them regularly.
God used the lives of the Patriarchs and Joseph, Moses,Joshua etc to paint vivid types, so Shem outliving many generations isn't an issue whatsoever. Keeping Shem alive until the patriarchs are alive seems to me quite logical. He is a witness to events on an actual story that would be skewed, accusations of the Hebrews "borrowing" from other cultures the flood story, when in fact it would be the other way around if the MT is correct.
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