https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t1910-islam-is-incoherent
Darth Dawkins in conversation with a muslim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVkXfeim7Ho&t=1871s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGP3AE-b58I
Islam’s View of Man’s Sinful Nature and the Christian Response
Like the Bible, the Quran teaches that people are descendants of Adam and Eve and are imperfect sinners. However, the Quran also teaches that their god, Allah, inspired sin in humankind (Quran 4:88; 7:16–18; 9:51; 14:4; 16:93; 35:8; 57:22; 74:31; 91:7–9). Muslims believe that humans are sinners because Allah has willed it. They have no understanding similar to the Bible’s teaching that humans, not God, caused sin through rebellion against God (Romans 5:12, 5:18–19).
Islam’s View of Salvation and the Christian Response
The Quran’s teachings regarding salvation are inconsistent. On the one hand, the Quran teaches that salvation is based on purification by good deeds (Quran 7:6–9). A Muslim can become righteous through prayer, almsgiving, fasting, and living according to the Quran. Yet the Quran also teaches that Allah has predetermined every person’s destiny, and one’s righteous acts may or may not affect Allah’s decision (Quran 57:22). It teaches that everyone, both the righteous and the unrighteous, will be led into hell by Allah, before the righteous will enter heaven (Quran 19:67–72). Therefore no Muslim can know his or her eternal destiny in this life. Even Muhammad himself was unsure of his salvation (Quran 31:34; 46:9).
Today, whenever Muslims mention the name of Muhammad, they always add the phrase, “Peace be upon him,” because Muhammad’s eternal destiny is uncertain, and the Muslim must ask Allah to be merciful to him. This contradiction between the Quran’s teaching of salvation by works and its teaching of Allah determining salvation, regardless of one’s works, results in Islam being the world’s most uncertain religion regarding salvation
We, as Christians, on the other hand, can be assured of our salvation: John 5:24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.
Romans 5:21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
The Bible tells us that not all will enter hell. Only Satan, the demons, and the unsaved will enter hell
Revelation 20:15: Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire..
The Crucifixion in the Quran
Here’s a summary about what the Quran has to say about the crucifixion of Jesus:
Jesus wasn’t killed
Jesus wasn’t crucified
People were mistaken to think they killed/crucified Jesus
Allah raised up Jesus to be with him in heaven
https://ihopeministries.org/muslims-reject-crucifixion/
Sam ShamounThe Crucifixion of Christ - A Christian Critique of the Quran
If it can be proven that Jesus did not die and rise from the dead, then Christianity is nothing more than a great lie which has deceived literally billions throughout the ages. The Christian is left without hope, having no assurance of justification, and remains in his sins. (Cf. 1 Corinthians 15:12-19; Romans 4:25, 5:8-11) In spite of the Quranic affirmation that Jesus was not crucified or killed there is no substantiation within the Quran itself that someone else, namely Judas, died in the place of Christ. All the text says is that it was made to appear as if Christ had been crucified. How this was done remains unanswered.
The idea that Jesus did not die on the cross stems from the Quran in S. 4:157-158:
Sahih International
And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
https://legacy.quran.com/4/157-158
https://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/crucifixion.htm
Gregory R. Lanier “It Was Made to Appear Like that to Them:” Islam’s Denial of Jesus’ Crucifixion
Of the major theological divides that separate Islam and Christianity, one of the most difficult to pin down is the denial of the crucifixion of Jesus in Muslim tradition. Though the assertion that Jesus did not die on the cross appears in only part of one difficult verse in the Qur’an (Q4:157, see below), scholars agree that the majority view within Islam is that this verse “affirms categorically that Christ did not die on the cross and that God raised him to Godself.” In fact, the rejection of the crucifixion has presented a significant challenge for Muslim-Christian engagement.
This dogma is not, however, without its difficulties: it requires rejection of the broad scholarly consensus that the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth outside Jerusalem under the oversight of Pontius Pilate is an indisputable historical fact; it strains exegesis of other parts of the Qur’an and appears to rely on strained exegesis of one verse; and it has spawned a wide range of often speculative and contradictory explanations. But does the Qur’an itself actually deny the resurrection? By analyzing the textual data and interpretive history, it will be argued that the belief that Jesus was not crucified actually stems from an anti-Jewish polemical passage that was misinterpreted along both Shi’a and Sunni lines and cemented by medieval orthodoxy. In other words, it is not the Qur’an itself that indisputably denies the crucifixion, but the scholars defending Islamic orthodoxy.
The most common interpretation, often called the “substitution theory,” takes the implied object of the verb to be Jesus himself: namely, it was not Jesus who was crucified, but someone who “appeared” like him to the Jews and was killed in his place (e.g., the Sahih International rendering). This theory maintains that the Jews intended to crucify Jesus, and a historical crucifixion indeed happened, but Allah controverted the Jews by placing Jesus’ visage on another person who, subsequently, took his place on the cross. Islamic exegetes have generated a plethora of possible identities of the person who bore Jesus’ image and replaced him on the cross: a passing Jew, a Roman soldier, Judas Iscariot, Simon of Cyrene, or one of the apostles such as Tatanus, Sergius, or Peter.[18] In short, the substitutionist reading, which is the most popular among Muslims today, is “that someone was, in fact, crucified, but it was not Jesus.”
Islamic Conception of Salvation
A third approach locates Islam’s trenchant denial of the crucifixion in its attempt at “undermining the construct of redemption.” On this view, by calling into question whether Jesus actually died on the cross at all, Islamic scholars have severed the link between the crucifixion and the redemptive importance assigned to it by Christianity. Given the Qur’an’s denial of Jesus’ divinity as well as its generally negative stance towards the biblical idea of human depravity or original sin, Islam does not teach a concept of atonement, which is obviously tied up in the event of the cross for Christians. Thus, not only is the crucifixion of a Messenger of Allah (even a special one like Jesus) soteriologically unnecessary in Islam, it would actually contradict the general teaching of Islam regarding the nature of salvation; “since Islam has no such doctrine [of redemption], such a death never would take place.” In other words, the denial of the crucifixion is a kind of doctrinal Occam’s Razor: it serves no purpose, so it is rejected. Though it is generally the most compelling option, the problem facing this explanatory framework is that it assumes the Qur’an has soteriology in view in 4:157, which may not, in fact, be the case.
https://journal.rts.edu/article/it-was-made-to-appear-like-that-to-them-islams-denial-of-jesus-crucifixion-in-the-quran-and-dogmatic-tradition/
Blueletterbible Salvation, as Islam Understands It, Is Based upon a Person’s Good Works Outweighing Their Bad
Claim: (Surah 23:102-104).
They whose balances shall be heavy shall be blest. But they whose balances shall be light, they shall lose their soul, abiding in hell forever.
In Islam, people are saved by the will of Allah through obedience to his law, the Shari’ah. Consequently, in Islam, a person is to live a good life, pleasing God in all that they do. They are to submit to him and follow his commandments. Religion, to the Muslim, does not mean salvation from sin. Instead, it means following the right path, or the Shariah which mapped out by Islamic law. Salvation in Islam is not understood in the same way as salvation in Christianity. And anyone who holds to the doctrine of the Trinity commits the unpardonable sin.
Reply: (Isaiah 64:6 NIV) All of us have become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
(Titus 3:5 NLT) He saved us, not because of the good things we did, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins and gave us a new life through the Holy Spirit
(John 8:24 NRSV) “I told you that you would die in your sins, for you will die in your sins unless you believe that I am he.”
(John 3:36 NASB) “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
(1 John 5:12, 13 NLT) So whoever has God’s Son has life; whoever does not have his Son does not have life. I write this to you who believe in the Son of God, so that you may know you have eternal life.
There Is No Assurance of Salvation in This Life
Islam cannot offer anyone assurance of salvation in this life. It is only at the Judgment Day that people will discover whether they have been accepted by Allah. This of course, means that nobody can have any real security in this life as to where they will be in the next.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/stewart_don/faq/islam/13-how-does-a-person-achieve-salvation-in-islam.cfm
Every religion besides Christianity teaches us to earn our way to God.
Christianity is the only religion that teaches that God came to us. Romans 5:8 says, “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”
Other religions have systems of rules to appease their god. Christianity is a relationship with God.
https://newspring.cc/articles/3-ways-christianity-is-different-from-other-religions
Jesus vs Muhammed
https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t1910-islam-is-a-lie#3213
Better stay alone than to follow Mohammed.
• Muhammad said: Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam. (Qur’an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) Jesus said: God loves everyone. (John 3:16)
• Muhammad said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. (Muslim 1:33) Jesus said: He who lives by the sword will die by the sword. (Matthew 26:52)
• Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Sahih Muslim 4206) •Jesus said: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. (John 8:7)
• uhammad permitted stealing from unbelievers (Bukhan 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) • Jesus said: Thou shalt not steal (Matthew 19:18)
• Muhammad permitted lying (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) • Jesus said: Thou shalt not bear false witness. (Matthew 19:18)
• Muhammad owned and traded slaves (Sahih Muslim 3901) • Jesus neither owned nor traded slaves.
• Muhammad murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) • Jesus preached forgiveness and forgave those who killed Him. (Luke 23:34)
• Muhammad said: If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. (Qur’an 2:194) • Jesus said: If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:39)
• Muhammad said: Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one’s position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) • Jesus said: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. (Matthew 5:9)
• Muhammad married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur’an 33:50) • Jesus was celibate, was never married.
• Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) • Jesus did not have sex with children.
• Muhammad ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) • Jesus never harmed a woman, He loved and cared for them.
• Muhammad said: O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. (Qur’an 3:110) • Jesus said: Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth. (Matthew 5:5)
• Muhammad ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq) • Jesus ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence.
• Muhammad killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) • Jesus never took captives; never killed anyone.
• Muhammad encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawud 2150, Qur’an 4:24) • Jesus never encouraged rape; never enslaved women.
• Muhammad was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) • Jesus suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. (Isaiah 53)
• Muhammad said: “And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah.” (Qur’an 8:39) • Jesus said: "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” (Matthew 5:44)
• Muhammad ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) • Jesus washed His disciples feet. (John 13:5)
• Muhammad demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship. (Qur’an 4:102) • Jesus chastised anyone attempting to defend Him with force. (John 18:10-12)
• Muhammad advocated crucifying others. (Qur’an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) • Jesus was crucified Himself, and forgave those who killed Him. (Luke 23:34)
• According to his followers, Muhammad had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) • Jesus gave His life for others and their sins. (John 18:11 & Isaiah 53
Corrections in Early Qurʾān Manuscripts
http://library.lol/main/F9064CF5181C229BB50E2B7874AF5354
Answering Islam: The Crescent in Light of the Cross
https://3lib.net/book/739232/50b477?dsource=recommend
Evidence that the God of the Christians exists (For Mustafa Speaks and The Perfect Dawah)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcMsCUA3c7c
Theological and historical errors in the Qur'an:
Mary was not part of the Christian trinity!
https://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-bible-koran-errors-catholic-mariolatry-trinity-father-son-mary.htm
Christian Prince Debates
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbUF9A1EyENdfhH0IfnDoBQ/videos
Allah, the Best Deceiver (Qur'an 3:52)
The Qur'an openly states many times that Allah is the 'best deceiver'. The root word used in these verses is Makr which means deception.
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah,_the_Best_Deceiver_(Qur%27an_3:52)
The Muslim Allah is not the same god of the Bible! The God of the Bible loves everybody. Muslim's Allah does not! In the Quran it makes no sense for Allah to enter his creation because Allah's justice, mercy, and love are limited. The God of the bible, creator of all things, is not limited!
Allah of the Quran does not love those who exceed the limits. Qur'an 2:190
Allah of the Muslims does not love those who are ungrateful sinners. Quran 2:276
Allah of the Muslims does NOT love the unbelievers. Quran 3:32
Allah of the Muslims does not love the unjust. Quran 3:57
Allah of the Muslims does not love those who are proud, boastful. Quran 4:36
Allah of the Muslims does not love the extravagant. 7:31
Allah of the Muslims does not love the mischief makers 28:77
Allah only loves good Muslims who will follow his commands! He does not love rebellious sinners, or the unbelievers! So, would a god of the Quran enter the world to die for the sinners? NO! Christ died for the ungodly!
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God gave many signs through Moses, from giving water from a rock to parting the Red Sea. Jesus gave many signs also, beginning with water from wine, even including raising Lazarus from the dead, and Himself having risen from the dead. What signs are there from Mohammed?
About Muhammad's first revelation when the archangel Gabriel visited him.
There were no witnesses to the visit and nothing to verify that it actually took place at all.. outside of the word of Muhammad.
Fair enough, so far, right? My questions are:
(1) Without falling under the definition for blind faith, explain why we should trust that Muhammad did not simply lie about it?
(2) In order for something to be reasonable or rational it must contain a tenable foundation; that is, it must be debatable or able to be defended rationally. Without falling under the definition for blind faith, how can you possibly defend Muhammad's vision? I mean, there is no reasoning, no witnesses, no evidence at all to at least make it a little bit tenable. It cannot be rationally defended.
Some of the rulings on apostasy and apostates
The apostate is not to be put to death immediately after he falls into apostasy, especially if his apostasy happens because of some doubt that arose. Rather he should be asked to repent and he should be offered the opportunity to return to Islam and resolve his doubts, if he has any doubts. Then if he persists in his apostasy after that, he is to be put to death.
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/14231/some-of-the-rulings-on-apostasy-and-apostates
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Christianity vs Islam
Since the Muslim religion is contradictory to other religions; not all can be true and coherent at the same time and instance. This is a violation of the law of non-contradiction; A cannot be non-A. This egalitarianism that you seek in religious honor is different from the 14th amendment's equal treatment in regards to law. The tenets of Islam are incoherent when it comes to those of Christianity. Only a religion with a deity that is both absolute and personal can justify the tenets of reality. Islam does not have this sort of deity. Allah is described as 'beyond' knowing in the personal sense and is so abstract and absolute as it cannot be known; yet the Koran claims to 'know' this god! To have a coherent religion, such as the Christian one, we need a God that is the source of personal concern with the created order and absolute in nature at the same time. One that can be the source of immaterial entities such as absolute laws of logic, power to sustain the laws of nature for mankind's benefit, and a source of moral absolutes. Without all three of these, a religion is incoherent in its unity. In Islam there is the claim that Allah is all holy and cannot tolerate sin in his presence, yet there is no atonement for past sins. No one never knows if enough good works have been done. How can their holy god tolerate creatures in his presence that have no substitute atonement for their sins the way Christianity does? Only Christianity offers propitiation and atonement for sinful mankind through Christ's substituionary atonement. It is also the only religion with an absolute and personal God that offers coherence in its ideology.
the quran is a lie surah 4:82 if you find any lie in the quran, the whole quran is a lie
lie #1 surah 18:86 the sun sets in a muddy spring,
lie #2 surah 27:61 the earth is fixed and does not move,
lie#3 surah 81:1-2 the sun will be overthrown and the stars will fall
lie #4 surah 85:5-7 semen is created between the ribs and backbone.
lie #5 Sura 96:2 = man is created from a clot
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There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an (Koran) advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. There are exactly 123 verses in the Qur'an about killing and fighting.
Qur'an 9:5, known as "the verse of the sword," declares, "Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem."
Better stay alone than to follow Mohammed. • Muhammad said: Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam. (Qur’an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) • Jesus said: God loves everyone. (John
3:16) • Muhammad said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. (Muslim 1:33) Jesus said: He who lives by the sword will die by the sword. (Matthew 26:52) • Muhammad stoned women for adultery. (Sahih Muslim 4206) • Jesus said: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. (John 8:7) • Muhammad permitted stealing from unbelievers (Bukhan 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) • Jesus said: Thou shalt not steal (Matthew 19:18) • Muhammad permitted lying (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) • Jesus said: Thou shalt not bear false witness. (Matthew 19:18) • Muhammad owned and traded slaves (Sahih Muslim 3901) • Jesus neither owned nor traded slaves. • Muhammad murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) • Jesus preached forgiveness and forgave those who killed Him. (Luke 23:34) • Muhammad said: If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. (Qur’an 2:194) • Jesus said: If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:39) • Muhammad said: Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one’s position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) • Jesus said: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. (Matthew 5:9) • Muhammad married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur’an 33:50) • Jesus was celibate, was never married. • Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) • Jesus did not have sex with children. • Muhammad ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) • Jesus never harmed a woman, He loved and cared for them. • Muhammad said: O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness. (Qur’an 3:110) • Jesus said: Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth. (Matthew 5:5) • Muhammad ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq) • Jesus ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. • Muhammad killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) • Jesus never took captives; never killed anyone. • Muhammad encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawud 2150, Qur’an 4:24) • Jesus never encouraged rape; never enslaved women. • Muhammad was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) • Jesus suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. (Isaiah 53) • Muhammad said: “And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah.” (Qur’an 8:39) • Jesus said: "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” (Matthew 5:44) • Muhammad ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) • Jesus washed His disciples feet. (John 13:5) • Muhammad demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship. (Qur’an 4:102) • Jesus chastised anyone attempting to defend Him with force. (John 18:10-12) • Muhammad advocated crucifying others. (Qur’an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) • Jesus was crucified Himself, and forgave those who killed Him. (Luke 23:34) • According to his followers, Muhammad had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) • Jesus gave His life for others and their sins. (John 18:11 & Isaiah 53)
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The curious thing about the Quran and Jesus is....
If what Jesus said is true, and what the Quran said about Jesus is true, then they are in conflict with each other.
According to the Quran, it says that Jesus is the Messiah, but not the Christ.
The problem here is that Messiah, and Christ are the same, in two different languages.
They both are "The Anointed One."
Thus, you have an inherent contradiction right off the bat.
Jesus said that he IS the way, the truth, and the life, and no one can come to the Father, except through Him.
So, either the Quran is true, or it's a lie.
Jesus said he is the Son of God, and the Quran says Allah has no son.
Jesus said several times before his crucifixion that he would be delivered to the religious leaders, and crucified, then die, and 3 days later, be raised from the dead.
The Quran says he didn't die.
This would claim that a people who were intimately acquainted with death, due to their experience with killing animals for their ritual sacrifices, and the commandments in the law didn't actually know what death was.
Moreover, it's saying that roman soldiers, also intimately acquainted with death, due to their own experience in killing, had no idea what death really was.
So, the problem I have is that a purported prophet who came along 600 years after the fact, claims that the people who were there, and actually killed Jesus, didn't know what they were doing, says they lied.
We then have the problem with Paul's letter to the Galatians, "if anyone, including an angel from heaven, preaches another gospel to you, let him be accursed by God."
Thus the claim that Gabriel tells Mary, and Joseph, and Daniel, that Jesus would be God's Savior, and his coming would be at a certain day, and then change all that...... by the Quran, 600 years later....
That's a serious contradiction.
Both can be lies, but both cannot be true.
As I recall, the Quran says that the prophets of God from the Bible spoke the truth, and should be listened to.
If that's the case, then their own words say that the Quran is built on lies, and contradicts the truth.
It strikes me that it's time for you to sit down and do a side by side study, and find out the truth.
The stories I'm hearing coming out of the middle east is that Jesus is showing up in dreams, and calling out a people who will follow him.
My prayer is that you actually want to know YHVH.
Jesus will introduce you to YHVH, when you follow Him.
According to Isaiah 1:18, YHVH says,
Come now, let us reason together. Though your sin be as scarlet, I will make it white as wool. Though it's red like crimson, I will make you white as snow.
According to chapter 30 vs 15, in Isaiah, YHVH says, in returning and in rest is your salvation. In quietness and confidence is your strength.
In chapter 32, YHVH says- the fruit of righteousness is peace, and confidence forever.
Does Allah forgive, and wipe away your sin?
Does he give you confidence, and peace forever?
YHVH, through faith in Jesus does.
Jesus says,
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
17 For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him.
18 He who believes in him is not judged. He who doesn’t believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.
19 This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil.
20 For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn’t come to the light, lest his works would be exposed.
21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God.”
Life, or death? YHVH offers life. As I've understood it, Allah only offers death.
Jesus says,
9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by me, he will be saved, and will go in and go out, and will find pasture.
10 The thief only comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I came that they may have life, and may have it abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
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Muhammad: A false prophet?
Prior to Islam, Mecca was home to a variety of gods. Meccans were polytheistic and worshipped 360 gods in the Kaabah, the large black cube which is the focus of Islamic prayer and worship today. As Muhammad began preaching his new monotheistic religion and declared all gods but Allah to be false, he and his followers began to suffer persecution at the hands of the polytheistic Meccans. In an attempt to placate the Meccans and buy some relief from persecution, Muhammad conveniently received a revelation acknowledging three Meccan female deities. These verses were originally recorded in Sura 53:19-22 as
Have you thought of al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other; these are the exalted Gharaniq [cranes which fly at high altitude] whose intercession is approved.
Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad's earliest biographer, records; "When the Quraysh [Meccans] heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way i which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him." Acknowledging the three Meccan deities accomplished what Muhammad had hoped for.
However, the angel Gabriel later revealed that Allah had not put those words in the mouth of Muhammad, but Satan had. Muhammad had spoken words given to him by Satan, which acknowledged other gods beside Allah. These verses have come to be know as the Satanic Verses.
The Implication
This presents a huge problem for Muhammad.
Muslims love to claim corruption of the Bible, and state that where the Qur'an and Bible agree, those portions of the Bible have not undergone corruption but rather remain reliable.
One such portion of scripture Muslims use, and thus consider uncorrupted, is Deuteronomy chapter 18. In particular, Musilms claim Deuteronomy 18:18 is a specific prophecy of Muhammad in the Old Testament (I will cover this argument in another article). If Muslims want to acknowledge verse 18 as reliable and uncorrupt, they must likewise accept verse 20, a mere two verses later and contained within the same paragraph. Deuteronomy 18:20 states:
But the prophet who dares to speak in My name a message I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods -- that prophet must die.
Here we have two criteria by which to identify a false prophet: one who attributes words to God that were not given by God, and one who speaks in the name of other gods.
Muhammad spoke in the name of other gods. He acknowledged al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat as three valid deities who deserved worhip and whose intercession could be sought.
Muhammad attributed words to God that God did not command him to speak. By his own admission, we find Muhammad stating, "I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken." (History of al-Tabari, vol. 6 p. 111, Albany, NY, SUNY Press)
Muslim apologists will point out that Muhammad received another revelation absolving him of this minor indiscretion:
Never have We sent a Rasool or a Prophet before you, O Muhammad, in whose reciting of the Revelations shaitan [Satan] did not threw in some falsehood; but Allah abolishes that which shaitan throws in and confirms His own Revelations, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
In other words, don’t worry Muhammad; all other prophets before you occasionally said things attributed to Satan and thought they were likewise from God, but God always corrected them. Of course, this is a groundless claim without merit, and in fact contrary to Deuteronomy 18:20.
According to Deuteronomy 18:20, Muhammad is a false prophet and must die. Of course, he is already dead, but the fact remains that over one billion people today still consider Muhammad to be a legitimate prophet. This is a tragedy.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/jesus-muhammad.aspx
600 years after Christianity, Muhammad plagiarized and distorted the bible. When it was presented and rejected by the Jews, he then presented it to the Christians with the same result. In his anger for being rejected, he then plagiarized the satanic verses from the talmud to slam the infidels. These are some of the satanic verses found in the Jewish talmud.
* “The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)
* “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)
* “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)
* “Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)
* “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only) * *“‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)
*[’Yashu’ is an acronym for the Jewish curse, ‘May his (Jesus) name be wiped out forevermore.’]
* Yashu (Jesus) was sexually immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)
* “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)
* “Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.” (Shabbath 104b, Hebrew Edition only)
* “She who was the descendant of princes and governors (the virgin Mary) played the harlot with carpenters.” (Sanhedrin 106a)
* “Christians who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.” (Rosh Hashanah 17a) All Mohammad did was replace Goy (gentile), or Christian to infidel and made a complete list of 106 of the quran's curses, from the Jewish talmudic curses. There is nothing original in the quran. It's all counterfeit.
Muhammad: A false prophet?
Prior to Islam, Mecca was home to a variety of gods. Meccans were polytheistic and worshipped 360 gods in the Kaabah, the large black cube which is the focus of Islamic prayer and worship today. As Muhammad began preaching his new monotheistic religion and declared all gods but Allah to be false, he and his followers began to suffer persecution at the hands of the polytheistic Meccans. In an attempt to placate the Meccans and buy some relief from persecution, Muhammad conveniently received a revelation acknowledging three Meccan female deities. These verses were originally recorded in Sura 53:19-22 as
Have you thought of al-Lat and al-Uzza and Manat, the third, the other; these are the exalted Gharaniq [cranes which fly at high altitude] whose intercession is approved.
Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad's earliest biographer, records; "When the Quraysh [Meccans] heard that, they were delighted and greatly pleased at the way i which he spoke of their gods, and they listened to him." Acknowledging the three Meccan deities accomplished what Muhammad had hoped for.
However, the angel Gabriel later revealed that Allah had not put those words in the mouth of Muhammad, but Satan had. Muhammad had spoken words given to him by Satan, which acknowledged other gods beside Allah. These verses have come to be know as the Satanic Verses.
The Implication
This presents a huge problem for Muhammad.
Muslims love to claim corruption of the Bible, and state that where the Qur'an and Bible agree, those portions of the Bible have not undergone corruption but rather remain reliable.
One such portion of scripture Muslims use, and thus consider uncorrupted, is Deuteronomy chapter 18. In particular, Musilms claim Deuteronomy 18:18 is a specific prophecy of Muhammad in the Old Testament (I will cover this argument in another article). If Muslims want to acknowledge verse 18 as reliable and uncorrupt, they must likewise accept verse 20, a mere two verses later and contained within the same paragraph. Deuteronomy 18:20 states:
But the prophet who dares to speak in My name a message I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods -- that prophet must die.
Here we have two criteria by which to identify a false prophet: one who attributes words to God that were not given by God, and one who speaks in the name of other gods.
Muhammad spoke in the name of other gods. He acknowledged al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manat as three valid deities who deserved worhip and whose intercession could be sought.
Muhammad attributed words to God that God did not command him to speak. By his own admission, we find Muhammad stating, "I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken." (History of al-Tabari, vol. 6 p. 111, Albany, NY, SUNY Press)
Muslim apologists will point out that Muhammad received another revelation absolving him of this minor indiscretion:
Never have We sent a Rasool or a Prophet before you, O Muhammad, in whose reciting of the Revelations shaitan [Satan] did not threw in some falsehood; but Allah abolishes that which shaitan throws in and confirms His own Revelations, for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
In other words, don’t worry Muhammad; all other prophets before you occasionally said things attributed to Satan and thought they were likewise from God, but God always corrected them. Of course, this is a groundless claim without merit, and in fact contrary to Deuteronomy 18:20.
According to Deuteronomy 18:20, Muhammad is a false prophet and must die. Of course, he is already dead, but the fact remains that over one billion people today still consider Muhammad to be a legitimate prophet. This is a tragedy.
The Trinity explained:
The following is found in Nabeel Qureshi's book, "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus, Chapter 33, Resonating With The Trinity."
"Projected in the front of the (class)room were three large depictions of nitrate in bold black and white. We were studying resonance, the configuration of electrons in certain molecules. The basic concept of resonance is easy enough to understand, even without a background in chemistry. Essentially, the building block of every physical object is an atom, a positively charged nucleus orbited by tiny, negatively charged electrons. Atoms bond to one another by sharing their electrons, forming a molecule. Different arrangements of the electrons in certain molecules are called 'resonance structures.' Some molecules, like water, have no resonance while others have three resonance structures or more, like the nitrate on the board.
Although the concept was easy enough to grasp, the reality proved to be baffling. Mrs. Adamski concluded her lesson by commenting, 'These drawings are just the best way to represent resonance structures on paper, but it's actually much more complicated. Technically, a molecule with resonance is every one of its structures at any point in time.'
The rest of the class must have had the same expressions on their faces as I did because Mrs. Adamski repeated herself. 'It's all the structures all the time, never just one of them.'"
This was Nabeel's "come to Jesus moment" when his mind first opened up to understanding the Trinity One God of the Bible.
Has the Trinity One God of the Bible become better understood to you? It has to me!
PS - This book and its sequel, "No God But One, Allah or Jesus," are two of the best apologetic books I have ever read that help explain in clear Biblical arguments who the One God of the Bible is, and why we can confidently believe and know that He is the true GOD WHO IS.
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Islam is not a religion. It is a political ideology, disguised as a religion. 600 years after Christianity, Muhammad plagiarized and distorted the bible. When it was presented and rejected by the Jews, he then presented it to the Christians with the same result. In his anger for being rejected, he then plagiarized the satanic verses from the talmud to slam the infidels. These are some of the satanic verses found in the Jewish talmud.
* “The ‘goyim’ are not humans. They are beasts.” (Baba Mezia 114b)
* “If you eat with a ‘goy’ it is the same as eating with a dog.” (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)
* “Even the best of the ‘goyim’ should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)
* “Sexual intercourse between the ‘goyim’ is like intercourse between animals.” (Sanhedrin 74b)
* “When it comes to a Gentile in peace times, one may harm him indirectly, for instance, by removing a ladder after he had fallen into a crevice.” (Shulkan Arukh, Yoreh De ‘ah, 158, Hebrew Edition only) * *“‘Yashu’ (derogatory for ‘Jesus’) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.” (Gittin 57a)
*[’Yashu’ is an acronym for the Jewish curse, ‘May his (Jesus) name be wiped out forevermore.’]
* Yashu (Jesus) was sexually immoral and worshipped a brick.” (Sanhedrin 107b)
* “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)
* “Miriam the hairdresser had sex with many men.” (Shabbath 104b, Hebrew Edition only)
* “She who was the descendant of princes and governors (the virgin Mary) played the harlot with carpenters.” (Sanhedrin 106a)
* “Christians who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.” (Rosh Hashanah 17a) All Mohammad did was replace Goy (gentile), or Christian to infidel and made a complete list of 106 of the quran's curses, from the Jewish talmudic curses. There is nothing original in the quran. It's all counterfeit.
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Why Should there be a Sex Market(Brothel) in Paradise?
Why a Market just for Sexual pressures?
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Sahih Bukhari Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of Allah said, "There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of MEN and WOMEN. When a ---MAN--- DESIRES a beauty, he WILL HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH THEM."
Jami-Al-Tirmidhi Sunna 2573 "also Known as the "Hour of Sex.."
Al-Tirmidhi HadithHadith 5646 Narrated byAli ibn AbuTalib
Allah's Messenger said, "In Paradise there is a market in which there is no buying or selling, but only the forms of men and women; and when a man desires a form he enters it."
See Also Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 466,
Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 402, Muslim 40:6804, 6805
Muslim 40:679
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