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Who is God? Attributes of God

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God is spirit. A non-physical entity. It is an animating principle or essence of a being, consciousness, or personality. It exists beyond the physical realm. While we cannot detect a spirit itself, we can infer its existence based on what physically exists.

John 4:24: "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
2 Corinthians 3:17: "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."

These verses emphasize the spiritual nature of God and suggest that God is not bound by physical limitations or restrictions.

Reasoning To The Ultimate/Absolute Being and Reality
http://www.testingworldviews.com/ultimatebeing.html

… according to the classical metaphysical traditions of both the East and West, God is the unconditioned cause of reality – of absolutely everything that is – from the beginning to the end of time. Understood in this way, one can’t even say that God "exists" in the sense that my car or Mount Everest or electrons exist. God is what grounds the existence of every contingent thing, making it possible, sustaining it through time, unifying it, giving it actuality. God is the condition of the possibility of anything existing at all.

God is spaceless, timeless, immaterial, powerful, intelligent and personal, which brought space, time, matter into being.

1. Spaceless: Because it created space
2. Timeless: Because it created time
3. Immaterial: Because it created matter
4. Powerful: Because it created out of nothing
5. Intelligent: Because the universe was precisely designed
6. Personal: To convert a state of nothing into something

Only the God of the Bible is described with the following characteristics:

Supernatural in nature (as He exists outside of His creation)
Incredibly powerful (to have created all that is known)
Eternal (self-existent, as He exists outside of time and space)
Omnipresent (He created space and is not limited by it)
Timeless and changeless (He created time)
Immaterial (because He transcends space)
Personal (the impersonal can’t create personality)
Necessary (as everything else depends on Him)
Infinite and singular (as you cannot have two infinities)
Diverse yet has unity (as all multiplicity implies a prior singularity)
Intelligent (supremely, to create everything)
Purposeful (as He deliberately created everything)
Moral (no moral law can exist without a lawgiver)
Caring (or no moral laws would have been given)

God is omnipresent (Psalm 139:7-12; Jeremiah 23:24)
God is omniscient (Psalm 147:4-5)
God is omnipotent (Jeremiah 32:17; Psalm 135:6)
God is Spirit (John 4:24)
God is in a league of His own (Isaiah 46:9)
God is immortal and invisible (1 Timothy 1:17)
God is the Creator (Genesis 1:1; Colossians 1:16)
God is unchanging (Malachi 3:6)
God is sovereign (Psalm 115:3)
God is One, yet He exists in three persons (Matthew 3:16-17; 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)
God is loving (John 3:16; 1 John 4:8 )
God is gracious and merciful (Jonah 4:2; Deuteronomy 4:31)
God is righteous (Psalm 11:7)
God is holy (Leviticus 19:2; 1 Peter 1:16)
God is just (Deuteronomy 32:4; Isaiah 30:18)
God is forgiving (1 John 1:9)
God is compassionate (James 5:11)

God transcends space and the universe
PHILOSOPHICAL FOUNDATIONS FOR A CHRISTIAN WORLDVIEW J. P. MORELAND & WILLIAM LANE CRAIG page 518
God transcends space is that we know, in virtue of the doctrine of creation, that God existing alone without creation is spaceless. For on a relational view of space, space does not exist in the utter absence of any physical reality, and on a substantial view of space, space is a thing or substance and therefore must have been created by God. In either case, then, God brings space into being at the moment of his creation of the universe. Without creation, therefore, God exists spacelessly. But the creation of space would do nothing to “spatialize” God, that is to say, to draw him into space. The creating of space is not itself a spatial act (as is, say, bumping something). Hence, there is just no reason to think that divine spacelessness is surrendered in the act of creation. If not, then omnipresence should be understood in terms of God’s being immediately cognizant of and causally active at every point in space. He knows what is happening at every spatial location in the universe and he is causally operative at every such point, even if nothing more is going on there than quantum fluctuations in the vacuum of “empty” space. God’s spacelessness would be the functional equivalent of an embedding hyperdimension of space. Just as a three-dimensional being could act in the two-dimensional plane in ways that would appear mysterious to the inhabitants of Flatland, so the transcendent God can act immediately at any point in our three-dimensional world.

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God is the supreme ( greatest ) being
personal
a trinity
spirit
Self-existent
Self-sufficient
Sovereign
Transcendent
Simple
Wise
Wrath
love
just
immutable
holy
righteous
merciful
unequaled
inscrutable
unfathomable
unsearchable
Immutable
Impartial
Incomprehensible
Infinite
Jealous
Longsuffering
The Infinite Creator.

- Extreme Intelligence and engineering is required throughout all levels.
- Orderly and logical laws ingrained everywhere.
- Great creativity variety and aesthetic beauty.
- And the fact persons were created in humanity as the image of God. Our personhood is a limited and minor representation of our personal creator.

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Sometimes God will be alluded to as an Infinite Personal Existence
beyond the limitations of time and space...

OR

an Infinite Spiritual Existence beyond the limitations of time and
space

but all of these actually defame God to a degree...and are somewhat
vain. They do not speak of God's incredible love for His children.

God exists. He is. He is revealed in the O.T. as "I AM" or YHWH
(known as the Tetragrammaton).

He is the beginning and the end. The Alpha and the Omega. From
everlasting to everlasting He is God.

He is a Heavenly Father - but NOT a finite existence. He is an
Infinite Heavenly Father Who is an Infinite Spiritual Existence without
body or mass. This is very important because "the old man in the
clouds" is a straw man.

Multiple gods isn't possible. If God is defined as completely actually with no potential, there cannot be another with the same maximally actual characteristics. Otherwise, there would be no differentiation and thus, no possibility of more than one essence which has the fully actualized characteristics of that which is traditionally known as "God."

If there were more gods than one, there would be various infinite beings; but this cannot be. For, being infinite, such gods would have all perfections, and therefore everything that the one had the other would also have; they would then not differ except numerically. But they could not differ numerically; for this would suppose that their individuality would be really distinct from their essence, since the essence is really separated in the second god from the individuality of the first. But we have seen that there is no real distinction between the essence of God and His individuality. Therefore there is only one God.
https://maritain.nd.edu/jmc/etext/lamp26.htm


Our universe, a multiverse, or a greater cosmos,  since it exists IN time, and there is movement and change, there are discrete sections of timeperiods, cannot be infinite without beginning. There must have been a beginning, and therefore a cause. A prime mover.
We’ve demonstrated that there is a ultimate, necessarily existent, infinite, immaterial, uncreated, non-contingent, timeless, eternal, incredibly powerful, omnipresent,  personal, conscious, intelligent being which caused the universe, life, biodiversity, and conscious beings.  And this, of course, is God.




http://www.josh.org/video-2/attributes-of-god/
http://www.gotquestions.org/attributes-God.html
http://preceptaustin.org/attributes_of_god.htm

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Who is God? What is God? How can we know God?
Who is God? - The Fact
The fact of God’s existence is so conspicuous, both through creation and through man’s conscience, that the Bible calls the atheist a “fool” (Psalm 14:1). Accordingly, the Bible never attempts to prove the existence of God; rather, it assumes His existence from the very beginning (Genesis 1:1). What the Bible does is reveal the nature, character, and work of God.

Who is God? - The Definition
Thinking correctly about God is of utmost importance because a false idea about God is idolatry. In Psalm 50:21, God reproves the wicked man with this accusation: “You thought I was altogether like you.” To start with, a good summary definition of God is “the Supreme Being; the Creator and Ruler of all that is; the Self-existent One who is perfect in power, goodness, and wisdom.”

Who is God? - His Nature
We know certain things to be true of God for one reason: in His mercy He has condescended to reveal some of His qualities to us. God is spirit, by nature intangible (John 4:24). God is One, but He exists as three Persons—God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit (Matthew 3:16-17). God is infinite (1 Timothy 1:17), incomparable (2 Samuel 7:22), and unchanging (Malachi 3:6). God exists everywhere (Psalm 139:7-12), knows everything (Psalm 147:5; Isaiah 40:28), and has all power and authority (Ephesians 1; Revelation 19:6).

Who is God? - His Character
Here are some of God’s characteristics as revealed in the Bible: God is just (Acts 17:31), loving (Ephesians 2:4-5), truthful (John 14:6), and holy (1 John 1:5). God shows compassion (2 Corinthians 1:3), mercy (Romans 9:15), and grace (Romans 5:17). God judges sin (Psalm 5:5) but also offers forgiveness (Psalm 130:4).

Who is God? - His Work
We cannot understand God apart from His works, because what God does flows from who He is. Here is an abbreviated list of God’s works, past, present, and future: God created the world (Genesis 1:1; Isaiah 42:5); He actively sustains the world (Colossians 1:17); He is executing His eternal plan (Ephesians 1:11) which involves the redemption of man from the curse of sin and death (Galatians 3:13-14); He draws people to Christ (John 6:44); He disciplines His children (Hebrews 12:6); and He will judge the world (Revelation 20:11-15).

Who is God? - A Relationship with Him
In the Person of the Son, God became incarnate (John 1:14). The Son of God became the Son of Man and is therefore the “bridge” between God and man (John 14:6; 1 Timothy 2:5). It is only through the Son that we can have forgiveness of sins (Ephesians 1:7), reconciliation with God (John 15:15; Romans 5:10), and eternal salvation (2 Timothy 2:10). In Jesus Christ “all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form” (Colossians 2:9). So, to really know who God is, all we have to do is look at Jesus.

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God is good

To say that God is good means God always acts in a way that is true, noble, right, and good. Goodness is a part of His nature and He cannot contradict His nature. Righteousness and holiness are a part of His nature too. He cannot do anything that is unholy or unrighteous.

God self-reveals himself as good:
Luke 18:19 and 1 John 1:5: “No one is good—except God alone,” and “God is light; in Him, there is no darkness at all.”
Exodus 34:6: The Lord, the Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth.
1 Chronicles 16:34 Oh, give thanks to the Lord, for He is good! For His mercy endures forever.
Psalm 25:8 And they sang responsively, praising and giving thanks to the Lord: “For He is good, for His mercy endures forever toward Israel.”
Ezra 3:11 Good and upright is the Lord.
Psalm 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.
Psalm 145:9 The Lord is good to all, and His tender mercies are over all His works.
Mark 10:18 No one is good but One, that is, God.
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.
Matthew 7:11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!
Psalm 27:13 I would have lost heart, unless I had believed that I would see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
Psalm 33:5 He loves righteousness and justice; the earth is full of the goodness of the Lord.
Psalm 34:8 Oh, taste and see that the Lord is good; blessed is the man who trusts in Him!
Psalm 100:4-5 Be thankful to Him, and bless His name. For the Lord is good; His mercy is everlasting.

Goodness is in His very core.
Ex 33:18 Moses said, “Please show me your glory.” 19 And he said, “I will make all my goodness pass before you and will proclaim before you my name ‘The LORD.’ And I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.

Beauty is an expression of goodness:
Psa. 139:14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well.

Because God hears our prayers and turns things to become good:
Rom. 8:26  28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.

Because his goodness and kindness is seen through his people
2Cor. 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

Because he has consistently demonstrated his goodness and kindness
Psa. 31:19 Oh, how abundant is your goodness, which you have stored up for those who fear you and worked for those who take refuge in you, in the sight of the children of mankind!

Because he helps those that seek for help:
Psalm 46 "God is our refuge and strength, a present help in times of trouble. Therefore, we will not fear..."
Psalm 100:5 ”For the Lord is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations”
Nahum 1:7 .“The Lord is good, a refuge in times of trouble. He cares for those who trust in him”

Because of Jesus' life
Acts 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him.

Because of Jesus' death
Titus 3:3 For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, led astray, slaves to various passions and pleasures, passing our days in malice and envy, hated by others and hating one another. 4 But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that being justified by his grace

God Is Holy
There is no one holy like the Lord; there is no one besides you (1 Samuel 2:2).
Who among the gods is like you, Lord? Who is like you — majestic in holiness, awesome in glory? (Exodus 15:11).
So holy, the angels cover themselves in His presence as they declare such things. While the prophet Isaiah merely cried out, “Woe to me! I am ruined,” recognizing the implications of his own nature before the Most Holy, Lord Almighty (Isaiah 6:2-5).

God Is Righteous and Rules
The Lord is righteous, he loves justice; the upright will see his face (Psalm 11:7).
For the Lord is our judge; the Lord is our lawgiver (Isaiah 33:22).

1. https://www.christianity.com/wiki/god/important-things-to-understand-about-the-nature-of-god.html

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What’s a spirit?

In a religious or metaphysical context, the essence of spirit may refer to the immaterial or divine aspect of reality that transcends the physical and material world. For example, the essence of God's Spirit is believed to be pure, eternal, and infinite, and to have attributes such as love, justice, wisdom, and power. Spirit, refers to the non-material or immaterial aspect of reality that is believed to transcend the physical and mental realm. It can be seen as a higher or divine power or essence that gives meaning, purpose, and value to human existence. Spirit is often associated with religious or spiritual beliefs, and it can take various forms, such as God, soul, energy, or consciousness.

Consciousness is a complex and multifaceted phenomenon that encompasses a wide range of mental processes and experiences, including perception, cognition, emotion, intentionality, and subjective awareness.

Some of the key features of consciousness  include:

Qualia: the subjective qualities of sensory experiences, such as the color of a flower or the taste of chocolate.
Intellectual activity: the ability to reason, analyze, and problem-solve using cognitive processes such as attention, perception, memory, and language.
Imagination: the capacity to form mental images, concepts, and scenarios that go beyond direct perception or memory.
Introspection: the ability to reflect on one's own thoughts, feelings, and experiences.
Awareness: the sense of being present and conscious of one's surroundings and inner states.
Experiencing: the capacity to feel sensations and emotions, and to have subjective experiences of pleasure, pain, joy, or suffering.
Intentions and free volition: the ability to make decisions and take actions based on one's goals, values, and desires.
Classification and judgment: the capacity to categorize and evaluate information, behaviors, and situations, and to make moral or ethical judgments.
Aesthetic awareness: the ability to appreciate and recognize beauty, harmony, and creativity in various forms of art, nature, and culture.

It plays a central role in shaping our perceptions, thoughts, emotions, and actions.

What are non-physical entities?

A non-physical entity is a concept that refers to something that exists or is believed to exist beyond the realm of physical matter and energy. Some examples of non-physical entities include:

Consciousness: The subjective experience of being alive and aware, which is not reducible to the activity of the brain or any other physical system.
Spirit or soul: A non-material or spiritual essence that is believed to be an integral part of human or divine existence, and to survive beyond the death of the physical body.
Angels or demons: Supernatural beings that are believed to exist in various religious or spiritual traditions, and to have powers or attributes that go beyond the limits of physical reality.
Ideas or concepts: Abstract concepts or mental constructs that exist only in the mind, such as mathematical principles, ethical values, or artistic expressions.
Information or data: Symbolic representations of knowledge or meaning that can be encoded and transmitted through various media, such as language, symbols, or digital signals.

What does it mean for something to exist beyond the physical realm?

To say that something exists beyond the physical realm means that it is not subject to the laws and principles that govern the material world. It suggests that there are aspects of reality that are non-physical or non-material, and that cannot be understood, investigated,  or explained by scientific methods.

The idea of non-physical existence is often associated with theistic beliefs, which posit the existence of supernatural or divine entities that transcend the physical world. For example, i as a Christian believe in the existence of God, angels, demons, souls, or afterlife, which are seen as existing in a realm beyond physical matter and energy.

However, the notion of non-physical existence is also present in secular or scientific contexts, such as in the study of consciousness, information, or mathematics. For example, consciousness is often described as a non-physical phenomenon that cannot be fully explained by the activity of the brain or any other physical system. Similarly, mathematical concepts and principles are considered to exist independently of physical objects or events, and to have a universal and eternal nature that transcends the material world.

In summary, to say that something exists beyond the physical realm means that it is not limited to the properties or laws of physical matter and energy, and that it can only be understood through non-physical or non-material means, such as intuition, contemplation, or spiritual experience.

Based on what observation can we infer that the spiritual world exists ?

Near Death experience , evidence of dualism

https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t1284-dualism-near-death-experience

Best NDE experience report I have seen so far. Really touching. The best part is that those that are once inscribed in the book of life, will never be canceled. So you cannot lose your salvation if you truly believe in Christ with your heart.

Former Atheist Convinced Of Afterlife Due To Near-Death Experience | Benno Panissidi, Switzerland In english
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfG_3VUHsW8

Non translated version in german:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnAw7VHboJU

If thought and  Logic come from proteins, chemicals, and neurons, then laws of logic would be different for everybody since no one has the same chemical and neurological patterns.

Given the enormous amount of information we have from NDE studies, there are some very evident implications. Of particular note is the common NDE experience of meeting and interacting with those who have died. In some cases, the NDEr met someone they did not recognize, but who identified themselves as a past relative. Later the NDEr verified that the person they met was indeed whom the person identified themselves as after tracking it down through various family members. In other cases, the NDErs met someone they believed at the time was alive, only to find out that person had passed shortly before they experienced their NDE. These NDE meetings have the quality of the deceased looking like, dressed like, acting like, and talking like the people they were here, even if the NDEr never actually met them or had no knowledge of them whatsoever. This clearly implies that what we call the “quantum information” of a person continues after death as distinct individuals with most of their significant characteristics intact.

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Claim: A god that is outside of time and space, is by definition, non-existent.

Response: The assertion that a god existing outside of time and space is by definition non-existent can be thoughtfully addressed from a philosophical perspective that acknowledges the limitations of human understanding in comprehending the full nature of existence.

The concept of existence itself is not limited to the parameters of time and space as understood by human beings. Time and space are constructs within which humans operate and understand their reality. However, the possibility of other forms of existence that do not conform to these constructs cannot be categorically denied. To argue that something does not exist simply because it does not fit within our current understanding of time and space is to limit the scope of existence to human perception, which may not encompass all forms of reality. The idea of a deity existing outside of time and space is not inherently contradictory or illogical. Such a being could exist in a realm or a state of being that is beyond human comprehension. The limitations of human understanding and the constraints of human language do not necessarily negate the possibility of such an existence. Many philosophical and theological perspectives suggest that the nature of a supreme being or a divine entity transcends human understanding, which means that our conventional concepts of existence may not apply to such a being. Furthermore, the notion of a god existing outside of time and space can be seen as a way to explain the attributes often ascribed to a supreme being, such as omnipresence, omniscience, and omnipotence. These attributes imply a form of existence that is not bound by the physical and temporal limitations that define human existence. Therefore, the concept of a deity existing in a realm beyond human comprehension is not only philosophically plausible but also aligns with the attributes traditionally ascribed to a divine entity. The statement that a god existing outside of time and space is by definition non-existent is a presumption based on a limited human understanding of existence. It does not take into account the possibility of forms of existence that transcend human perception and understanding. Philosophical and theological explorations have long grappled with the concept of a supreme being whose nature and existence are beyond the confines of human experience, suggesting that such a being's existence cannot be dismissed based solely on the limitations of human understanding.

The Bible, while not explicitly using the modern scientific concepts of time and space, contains several verses that imply God's existence beyond these dimensions.
Psalm 90:2: "Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." This verse suggests God's existence before the creation of the world and time itself, indicating a state beyond time.

Isaiah 57:15: "For thus says the High and Lofty One Who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: 'I dwell in the high and holy place, with him who has a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.'" The term "inhabits eternity" can be interpreted as God existing in a realm beyond temporal limitations.

2 Peter 3:8: "But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." This verse is often cited to illustrate that God's perception and measurement of time is vastly different from human understanding, suggesting a nature outside of human temporal constraints.

John 8:58: "Jesus said to them, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.'" This statement by Jesus is interpreted as him asserting his eternal existence, a claim to divinity and existence beyond the human concept of time.

Revelation 1:8: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." This verse portrays God as encompassing all of time - past, present, and future.

Jeremiah 23:24: "Can anyone hide in secret places so that I cannot see him?” declares the LORD. “Do not I fill heaven and earth?” declares the LORD." This verse is often interpreted as God's omnipresence, existing beyond the spatial limitations known to humans.

These verses, among others, argue for God's existence beyond the confines of time and space as understood by humans.

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