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Fullfilled prophecies in the bible

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Do you want to know why Simeon and Anna were waiting for the consolation of Israel which was the coming of the Messiah? They understood the book of Daniel
Thankfully, neither your salvation, nor mine, hangs in the balance with getting Daniel 9:24-27 exactly right. But God has already laid down when the Messiah was coming when Danial was in Babylon
Daniel 9:24,27 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy Place . Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

DANIEL 9 & THE 70 WEEKS
Daniel was next told by Gabriel that the 70 sevens are to accomplish six purposes.
1) The first is to finish transgression. The Hebrew word translated “to finish” means “to restrain firmly,” “to restrain completely” or “to bring to completion.”
2) The second purpose of the 70 sevens is to make an end of sins. The Hebrew word translated “to make an end” literally means “to seal up” or “to shut up in prison.”
3) The third purpose is to make reconciliation for iniquity. The Hebrew word translated “to make reconciliation” is “kaphar,” which has the same root meaning as the word “kippur,” as in Yom Kippur. The word “kaphar” literally means “to make atonement.”
4) The fourth purpose of the 70 sevens is to bring in everlasting righteousness. More literally this could be translated “to bring in an age of righteousness,”
5) The fifth purpose is to seal up vision and prophecy. Here Daniel used a word which means “to shut up.” So “to seal up” means to cause a cessation or to completely fulfill. Thus, vision and prophecy are to be completely fulfilled.” Vision” is a reference to oral prophecy, while “prophecy” refers to written prophecy. Both oral and written prophecy will cease
6) The final purpose of the 70 sevens is to anoint the most holy. A better translation here would be “to anoint a most holy place.” This is a reference to the Jewish temple which is to be rebuilt when Messiah comes.

THE PREDICTED TIME.
The time of the 70 Sevens Daniel 9:24,27 “Seventy sevens are decreed upon thy people and upon thy holy city…” The focus of the program of the sevens was “thy people and…thy holy city.” the Jewish people. The Hebrew text is shavuim, which means “sevens.” The word refers to a “seven” of anything, It was not “70 years,” but “70 sevens of years,” a total of 490 years (70 times seven).
The Start of the 70 Sevens Daniel 9:25 “Know therefore and discern, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem.…”
Artaxerxes to Nehemiah (Nehemiah 2:1-8 ), issued in the year 444 B.C.E. This decree specifically concerned the rebuilding of the walls around Jerusalem.
The 70 sevens are divided into three separate units—seven sevens, 62 sevens and one seven. During the first time period (49 years) Jerusalem would be “built again, with street and moat, even in troublous times.” The second block of time (62 sevens, a total of 434 years) immediately followed the first for a total of 69 sevens, or 483 years. The last seven is known as the seven-year tribulation.
Daniel taught that 483 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem had been issued, Messiah would be here on earth. “unto Messiah the Prince.” “Would be cut off but not for himself” v26

THE PREDICTED DEATH.
“the Messiah shall be cut off and not for himself” The Hebrew word translated “cut off” is the common word used in the Mosaic Law and simply means “to be killed.”
The Hebrew expression translated “and not for himself” has two meanings. It may mean “nothingness,” emphasizing Messiah’s state at death and he died for others rather than for himself.
The point of this phrase is that between the end of the second subdivision (the 69th seven) and before the start of the 70th seven, Messiah would be killed and not for himself. During this interim period “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood.…” The city and the temple that were to be rebuilt would now be destroyed. So sometime after the Messiah was cut off, Jerusalem and the temple would suffer another destruction. The Romans, and Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in year 70 C. E. Based upon this verse, it is also clear that the Messiah should have both come and died prior to the year 70 C.E.


THE PROVIDED WITNESS.
In Luke 2:25-38, we learn about Simeon and Anna who also obeyed and clearly understood the time the Messiah was coming according to Daniel in God’s Word.

Daniel was in Babylon, so he would have used the Babylonian calendar, and not the Jewish calendar. The Babylonian calendar is 360 days and the Jewish is 365.
Some scholars I have read have a hard time lining up the Daniel 9 timing with Jesus's death because they assume the Jewish calendar was used.
Using the 365 day calendar produces errors in dating. However if you use the 360 day calendar, it works out to the very day that Jesus entered into Jerusalem the day of His triumphal entry.
One wonders at the reception He was given. He was hailed as the Messiah very clearly. The people knew from Daniel's prophecy that the time of the fulfillment was at hand. 

THEY WERE WAITING FOR HIM!
Jesus delayed His trip so that His entry to Jerusalem would line up exactly with Daniel's prophecy, when the correct calendar was used.

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WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY THAT JESUS IS NOT THE MESSIAH?

http://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t2435-fullfilled-prophecies-in-the-bible#5403

Until we can measure a thing,
We really know very little about it.
William Thompson (Lord Kelvin)


The concept of compound probabilities gives us insight as to the identity of the Messiah. To understand compound probabilities, let's do a little mind experiment.
Imagine you are in a room with 100 other people randomly distributed. Half of them are men and half are women. If you were blindfolded and began to wander about the room the probability that the first person you would bump into is a man is 50 out of 100 or 50%


Now imagine 10% of the men and 10% of the women are left-handed. What is the probability that you would bump into a left-handed man?
100 x 50% x 10% = 5% or 5:100 (five out of a hundred)
You have a 1 in 20, or five percent chance that you would bump into a left-handed man. As you can see, as more conditions are added to your search, the number of qualifying solutions are quickly reduced.


Old Testament contains over 300 prophecies detailing the Coming Messiah. What are the chances of Jesus being the messiah? Let's take a look at just eight of these prophecies and see what the compound probabilities are.


Micah 5:2. Born in Bethlehem (pop <7000)
What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history being born there? 
P = or < 10,000/1,000,000,000
P = or < 10^4 / 10^9 = 1:10^5 (generous estimate)


Zech 9:9 Present self as king, entry into Jerusalem on a donkey
What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history?
P = or < 1:100 (generous estimate)


Zech 11:12 Betrayed for 30 pieces of silver
What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history?
P = or < 1:1,000 (generous estimate)


Zech 11:13 Same silver pieces thrown into the Temple and later given to a potter. (see Mat 27:4-5, 6-8 )
What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history?
P = or < 1:100,000 (very generous estimate)
Zech 13:6 Wounded in the hands 


What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history?
P = or < 1:1,000 (generous estimate)


Isa 53:7 Accused of capital crime, made no defense though innocent.
What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history?
P = or < 1:1,000 (generous estimate)


Isa 53:9 Died among common, yet buried with the rich.
What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history?
P = or < 1:1,1000


Ps 22:16 Crucified, hands and feet pierced. (Official form of execution in Israel was stoning and this was written 700 years before crucifixion was invented by the Persians).
What is the probability of the earth's population through recorded history?


P = or < 1:10,000 (generous estimate)
Was Jesus really the Messiah???
Prophecy, verse. Probability


Born in Bethlehem, Micah 5:2 
 1:100,000


King on Donkey, Zech 9:9 
 1:100


30 pieces of silver, Zech 11:12 
1:1,000



Silver to Temple, then potter, Zech 11:13
1:100,000


Wounds on hands, Zech 13:6 
 1:1,000


No defense, yet innocent, Isa 53:7 
 1:1,000


Died with common, buried with rich, Isa 53:9 
 1:1,000


Crucified, Ps 22:16 
 1:10,000
.00001 x .01 x .001 x .00001 x .01 x .01 x .01 x .001 
= 10^-28 (ten to the negative 28th power)
Total population of the earth through time = or < 100 billion (10^11)
10^-28/10^11 
= 10^-17 or 1:100,000,000,000,000,000
Total compound probability one person could fulfill all of these eight prophecies is 1 in 100 Quadrillion.
How big is that number? If you were to paint a silver dollar red and place it in a bucket with 99 other silver dollars, your chances or reaching into the bucket blindfolded and pulling out that red silver dollar would be 1 in 100.
To understand the size of 10^17, take that same red painted silver dollar and place it in a bucket of silver dollars the size of Texas covered two feet deep in silver dollars!


Here's a list of some of the major prophecies:
He was to be of David's family

2 Sam 7:12-16; Ps 89:3-4, 110:1; 132:11; Isa 9:6-7; 11:1
He would be born of a virgin


Gen 3:15; Isa 7:14
He would be born in Bethlehem 


Micah 5:2
He would sojourn in Egypt 

Hos 11:1
He would live in Galilee Isa 9:1-2


... In Nazareth. Isa 11:1


To be announced by an Elijah-like herald
Isa 40:3-5; Mal 3:1; 4:5


His coming would occasion the massacre of Bethlehem's children. Gen 35:19-20; Jer 31:15


His mission would include the Gentiles 
Isa 42:1-4


Ministry would be one of healing 
Isa 53:4


He would teach through parables 
Isa 6:9-10; Ps 78:2


He would be disbelieved, rejected by Rulers
Ps 69:4; 118:22; Isa 6:10; 29:13; 53:1


Would make a triumphal entry into Jerusalem 
Zech 9:9, Ps 118:26


Betrayed by a friend for 30 pieces of silver
Zech 11:1-13, Ps 41:9


Would be like a smitten shepherd
Zech 13:7


Would be given vinegar and gall
Ps 69:21



They would cast lots for His garments 
Ps 22:18


His side would be pierced 
Zech 12:10; Ps 22:16


Not a bone would be broken
Ex 12:46; Num 9:12; Ps 34:20


Would die among malefactors 
Isa 53:9, 12



His dying words foretold 
Ps 22:1; 31:5


Would be buried by a rich man
Isa 53:9


Rise from the dead on the 3rd day
Gen 22:4; Ps 16:10-11; Jon 1:17


Resurrection followed by destruction of Jerusalem
Dan 9:26; 11:31; 12:1,11
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What are the chances that Jesus is not the Messiah? Remember, there are over 300 prophecies related to the Messiah, and Jesus fulfilled them! The numbers for the probabilities are so astronomical that one person fulfilling all these prophetic conditions mathematically eliminates with absolute certainty the probability that it could be anyone else.


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For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
WE HAVE ALSO A MORE SURE WORD OF PROPHECY; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed,
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Does Isaiah 53 predict that Jesus would be the Messiah?

http://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t2435-fullfilled-prophecies-in-the-bible#6549

The Historical and Literary Context
The Servant of the Lord
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It is impossible to understand this passage without a larger panoramic view of the concept of the servant of the Lord in Isaiah. This is the fourth of a number of “servant songs” in Isaiah (Is. 42:1-6; 49:1-3; 50:4-9; 52:13 – 53:12).1  Interestingly, each of these servant passages appears to build on one another. First, Isaiah 42:1-6 describes the mission of the servant. Commenting on Isaiah 42:1-4, Blenkinsopp notes, “Here the speaker is Yahweh, who designates an individual as his servant and chosen one, endowing him with the spirit so that he may fulfill his mission of dispensing justice and law to the nations.”2

Second, Isaiah 49:1-13 notes that this mission is accompanied by difficulties. Some argue that the text refers to Israel as a whole, others to the prophet himself. Commenting on Isaiah 49, Blenkinsopp notes, “But the problem is that the mission assigned to the speaker includes the task of bringing Israel back to its God, which task must be ascribed to an individual or collectivity within Israel, not to Israel itself. It seems, then, that the passage has been expanded to allow for a certain identification between the prophet and Israel, while still describing the prophet’s own sense of mission to Israel.”3

Third, Isaiah 50:4-9 shows that the servant suffers short of death, but does not give the reasons for his suffering. Finally, Isaiah 52:13 – 53:12 demonstrates that the servant's suffering leads to his death.

The Immediate Context
This prophecy actually begins in the latter part of Isaiah 52 (verses 13-15), which serves as a summary of chapter 53. These three verses describe his exaltation (13), humiliation (14), and his shocking effect on the world (15). This roughly corresponds to chapter 53 (though in a different order) which describes the irony of his coming (1-2), his humiliation and suffering (3-10a), and exaltation (10b-12). All together, the text reads:

"Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently; He shall be exalted and extolled and be very high. 14 Just as many were astonished at you, So His visage was marred more than any man, And His form more than the sons of men; 15 So shall He sprinkle many nations. Kings shall shut their mouths at Him; For what had not been told them they shall see, And what they had not heard they shall consider. 53:1 Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, And as a root out of dry ground. He has no form or comeliness; And when we see Him, There is no beauty that we should desire Him. 3 He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. 4 Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken. 9 And they made His grave with the wicked— But with the rich at His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was any deceit in His mouth. 10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand. 11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors," (Isaiah 52:13-53:12 NKJV).

Will the Real Servant Please Stand Up?
There are a number of important aspects of this passage.  First, verse 1 describes the arm of the Lord.  This has parallels elsewhere in Isaiah where the arm will rule for God (Is. 40:10); Gentiles will trust in the arm (Is. 51:5); the arm will redeem (Is. 51:9); and the arm will provide salvation (Is. 52:10).4

Second, verses 1-3 show that this servant came as a normal individual.  He is not, in the appearance or status of his person, attractive or amazing in any sense.  Third, verses 4-6 and 8 describe the substitutionary nature of the servant’s suffering.  This individual suffers for the sins of Israel, “But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities” (5) and “For the transgressions of My people He was stricken” (8 ).  Fruchtenbaum comments on the pronouns in the passage, “The pronouns mean that Isaiah and the Jews must be included; they cannot refer to Gentiles. Furthermore, none of the things happening to this individual could be said to apply to the nation of Israel. Isaiah is clearly talking of one person. The nation is only included in the pronouns.”5

Fourth, the text indicates that the servant did not open his mouth.  Fruchtenbaum notes, “This is hardly true of Israel. One thing Israel has not been is silent in her sufferings; she has written many books describing her suffering and accusing those responsible.”6  Fifth, verses 8-9 indicate that the servant dies.  The text uses the words “cut off,” which indicates that the servant was legally executed.  Blenkinsopp notes that the reference in verse 9 “. . . would seem most naturally to imply that he was put to death.”7  Sixth, the servant dies, but somehow he is vindicated in the end.  He is alive and able to see his seed (11).  How will the Messiah be able to prolong his days and see his seed if he is dead?  A resurrection of some sort is the only possible way for this to happen.8

The Identity of the Servant
There are a number of reasons why this passage refers to the Messiah.  First, this passage mentions an individual person.  The references are in the singular.  Commenting on verse 8, Fruchtenbaum notes, “This One, who is Messiah, is quite distinct from ‘my people,’ who are Israel.”9  Elwell notes, “While it is true that Isaiah does not explicitly link the title Messiah with the Servant of the Lord, identifying both figures as one and the same person is justifiable.”10  Both are uniquely anointed (Is. 61:1), bring light to the Gentiles (Is. 55:4; cf. 49:6), neither is pretentious at the first appearance (Is. 7:14-15; 11:1; cf. 42:3; 53:1), they both have the title of the Davidic “branch” (Is. 11:1-4), and they both are humiliated and exalted (Is. 49:7; 52:13-15).   In the Old Testament, “my people” is always a reference to Israel.  However, Messiah will be killed for the sins of Israel.11

Second, just because not all of the references of the servant of the Lord refer to the Messiah, this does not mean that none of them refer to the Messiah.  The word servant is used of various individuals in the book of Isaiah including the prophet himself (Is. 20:3), Eliakim (Is. 22:20), David (Is. 37:35), Israel (Is. 41:8-10; 43:10; 44:1-2, 21; 45:4; 48:20), and an unnamed individual (Is. 42:1-3; 52:13 – 53:12) to name a few of the passages.  Isaiah 54:17 even describes multiple servants of the Lord, which could be a reference to the prophets.  While some references in Isaiah appear to identify the servant as Israel or Isaiah, the best interpretation of Isaiah 53 is that it refers to the Messiah.

Third, one must admit that it is difficult to apply “he shall see his seed” (10) to Jesus since he did not have any children.  However, it is possible to take the reference to seed in a more figurative sense.  Blenkinsopp, though interpreting this passage as applying to a community of prophets, applies it figuratively, “. . . the final promise that he will see his offspring and that his work will bear fruit in the end would imply that he lives on in the prophetic following dedicated to perpetuating his message.”12  If Blenkinsopp can apply this to the prophetic group, why couldn't one apply this to Jesus in the sense that people are children of God (cf. John 1:12)?

Fourth, the traditional Jewish interpretation was that this passage referred to the Messiah.  The Jewish scholars during the early Christian era clearly thought that this passage was Messianic. They paraphrase Isaiah 42:1 as “Behold my Servant Messiah” and Isaiah 53 as “Behold my Servant Messiah will prosper.”13  Fruchtenbaum points out, “All of the ancient Jewish writings – the Mishnah, the Gemara, (the Talmud), the Midrashim and many others – all regard this portion of Scripture as relating to the Messianic Person.”14  It was Rashi, around 1050 A.D. who first suggested that it refers to Israel.  However, Rashi’s views sparked fierce debate with the great rabbi Maimonides strongly opposing Rashi’s claims.

Due to texts like Isaiah 53, the ancient rabbis resolved this apparent conflict between a dying and reigning Messiah by inventing the concept of two Messiahs.  Fruchtenbaum summarizes this view, “They taught that the first Messiah, whom they called ‘Messiah son of Joseph,’ who suffered in Egypt, would come to suffer and die in fulfillment of the servant passages, one of which they listed as Isaiah 53.  The second Messiah, ‘Messiah son of David,’ would then come and raise the first Messiah back to life.  He would then establish His Kingdom to rule and to reign.”15 Nevertheless, they recognized the death and resurrection in the Messianic prophecies.

Fifth, Isaiah 53:10 states, “when you shall make his soul an offering for sin.”  The same word for offering (asham) is the same word used in the Law where the offering had to be perfect and without blemish.  Louis Goldberg comments, “At this point, if our Jewish friend persists in saying that Isaiah 53 refers to the nation, we can raise the questions, Can you say that Israel is without spot or blemish – perfect in every way? . . . Usually our Jewish friends will say no.”16  J. A. Motyer likewise agrees with the conclusion that the servant cannot be Israel, “In the sequence of the chapter, we have thus been informed that the Servant cannot be the nation.”17

Evaluation as an Apologetic Argument
It is hard to do justice to all of the hermeneutical issues in Isaiah 53 in a few short pages when volumes have been written on these fifteen significant verses.  However, this text gives strong credence to the case for Jesus as the Messiah.  First, the traditional Jewish interpretation had no problem teaching that this passage referred to the Messiah.  Second, it is relatively easy to demonstrate that Israel is not the servant of the Lord in Isaiah 53 due to the reasons given above.



WHAT DOES ISAIAH 53 SAY? By Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum
https://www.chosenpeople.com/media/archive/400001159.pdf


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